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bcblase
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: My First DE Event |
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Not a big deal by most of you guys' standards, but I participated in my first DE event at Summit Point, WV today. We ran the main circuit in groups of about 10-12 cars. We got five 20-minute sessions through the day - I was in the "green" group of novices. My instructor was pretty cool - he thought I was good enough to solo on the last run of the day!
I kept up with most of the cars in the group and ended up ahead of the pack on my last couple of runs. One guy in a 944 NA tried to stay with me, but couldn't keep up, and faded into the turns behind me...
Cool stuff - can't wait to try it again!
Ready to pass the 'Benz...
Cya!
Out in front...
all alone...
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Neil924
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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That's great. Learning how to drive quickly is a life long test. Never push past the limits of the car, your body or your mind and you'll be safe and have a blast. The only question is "Where are those limits?"  |
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bass gt
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Neil924 wrote: | | The only question is "Where are those limits?" |
usually lurking near the Armco 
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Neil924
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| bass gt wrote: | | Neil924 wrote: | | The only question is "Where are those limits?" |
usually lurking near the Armco |
Nice!
We have a development near us, a few high rise condos going up, they're called "The Armco".
Every time I drive I expect it to fall down or lean quite far to one side. lol |
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bcblase
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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There's one thing that keeps nagging at me...
The car handles unbelievably - I can't believe the speed at which I was taking some of the turns, and the car was sticking like I had glue in the tires.
So, if it's smoke that keeps the engine running, what keeps the car on the track? It must be the glue, right?
BC
P.S. Geeez...I'm gonna have trouble sleeping over this tonight.
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924RACR
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| bcblase wrote: |
So, if it's smoke that keeps the engine running, what keeps the car on the track? It must be the glue, right?
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Close - it's the noise. The noise in the tires. 
Good job! Welcome to the Dark Side!
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JSilverman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| bcblase wrote: |
So, if it's smoke that keeps the engine running, what keeps the car on the track? It must be the glue, right? |
Actually its the smoke being stored in the tires that keeps them planted on the road. Once you start letting the smoke out they no longer stick. |
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Paul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: |
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As you get more experience you'll find the limit and be able to stay there. If fact to be really fast, experts enter a corner 2 or 3 mph faster than the limit, setup a controlled slide to scrub off the 2 or 3 mph and finish the corner at the limit.
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924RACR
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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That sounds like fast in, slow out, Paul...
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JSilverman
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| 924RACR wrote: | | That sounds like fast in, slow out, Paul... |
A couple local guys rented Summit Point and Flew Chris Cervelli out for private instruction. That is exaclty how he said to drive these cars because they dont accelerate very fast so you need to be fast entering the corner or something to that effect. If you search over on rennlist for posts by TDinDC he has all sorts of data acquisition showing that its faster etc. |
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: |
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That's how Shaggy seems to get around fastest, with a bit of trail braking to rotate the car and avoid the understeer I cleverly designed into the chassis.
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Paul
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| 924RACR wrote: | | That sounds like fast in, slow out, Paul... |
Wanna race? (Only kidding wheel to wheel racing is on my "used to do" list)
This method results in the same exit speed.
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Paul
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | That's how Shaggy seems to get around fastest, with a bit of trail braking to rotate the car and avoid the understeer I cleverly designed into the chassis. |
Get rid of the larger tires in the rear so you can oversteer at will!
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924RACR
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Anytime, tough guy...
As I said: "That sounds like fast in, slow out."
Or, perhaps a little more clearly:
"That sounds like fast in, slow out."
As for shaggy - doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with the rear end, leave it alone! Rather, add a little more grip on the front!
Of course, the more astute out there will realize that this is exactly what trail-braking does...
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Paul
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: |
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An aging man sighs as he remembers his youth....
In regards to shaggy, four tires of the same size, IMO are easier to setup for neutral handling.
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