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stan_5150
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:22 pm Post subject: 78 NA Oil pan hung up |
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I have finally gotten the fasteners from the oil pan and it should be dropping but it seems to be hung up somewhere on the left rear. I have the 3 bolts out from the bell housing so I don’t believe that’s the issue. If anyone has any guidance on how to remove it please let me know. Thanks in advance. _________________ 1978 924 N/A |
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Mclaren924
Joined: 13 Oct 2021 Posts: 260 Location: Oceanside CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Hey mate, the oil pan is a mirror on both sides in terms of bolt pattern. I'll attach a video of me assembling mine so you can see all the bolt locations. Things can get cruddy and hidden easily, once you are sure everything is loose. A few bumps with your palm or soft strikes with a rubber mallet will break it free. After a few bumps if its still stuck, check for forgotten bolts as it shouldn't take too much work to get it free.
https://youtu.be/F59a_ryt9kI?si=Dei23HPqbUJ0f0_p _________________ 1980 931 "Salt" Bucket wannabe racer (Dreaming)
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stan_5150
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome vid, thanks for sending. I tried to loosen up the left engine mount thinking that was the interference but still can’t get the pan down. Beyond frustrating. _________________ 1978 924 N/A |
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Joined: 18 Mar 2017 Posts: 698 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Not budging at all?
If you removed all fasteners, it may have been glued by someone, but usually there is a missed bolt... _________________ /Magnus, Stockholm Sweden
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stan_5150
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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The pan itself is loose and I'm able to move it around. I tried to loosen the left hand engine mount thinking that would give enough clearance but still no luck. _________________ 1978 924 N/A |
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safe

Joined: 18 Mar 2017 Posts: 698 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Engine still in the car then? You need to remove the cross member or at least lower it enough to clear the oil pickup in the sump. _________________ /Magnus, Stockholm Sweden
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stan_5150
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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The engine is still installed on the car, and the cross member/steering rack has been removed. I neglected to mention that there is an EGR line that goes under the pan. At first I thought that the line was providing interference but I've loosened the line for more clearance but that wasn't the issue. _________________ 1978 924 N/A |
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Mclaren924
Joined: 13 Oct 2021 Posts: 260 Location: Oceanside CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Maybe it's getting caught up on the oil pickup itself? I seem to remember having to tilt and lean the pan to get it to clear and seat right over the pickup.
Try tilting and leaning it side to side, make sure all the bolts are out before you go crazy on it. Take some pictures so we can get a better idea of your situation. and you can upload them here with imgur or other picture hosting sites. _________________ 1980 931 "Salt" Bucket wannabe racer (Dreaming)
1979 924 Sebring "Pepper" -Sold
1977 924 Slicktop "Pennie"-Most likely parts
1979 3/5 gt clone 924- Shop Test Car |
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9063 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Unclear if it's off the flange or not; if it is off the flange, then yes my bet is it's hanging on the pickup.
To clear this, you definitely need to extract it perpendicular to its mounting face on the block. There's an internal baffle that the pickup works around, which is why it can be tricky.
If you haven't meaningfully moved it from the flange (1cm or better), then you've missed a bolt.
If you can see this photo, it might help give some idea of what you're working around:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10217161120894958&set=pb.1678056378.-2207520000&type=3 _________________ Vaughan Scott
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stan_5150
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like I need to wiggle it from around the pickup. Wish me luck! Thanks. _________________ 1978 924 N/A |
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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2801 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Im doing the same in my 931 atm, seems like it gets stuck on that little oil pan tab up there against the engine mount bracket. I dont remember if its the same on the n/a. I think i might have to remove the bracket somehow. I have an oil pan baffle which will make it even trickier to get that oil pickup out of the way. Anyway, im out of swear words atm, will give it a new try later...
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9063 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I've never pulled mine without removing that engine mount.
I just throw a precision-cut 4x4" timber across the fenders (cut to fit inside the lip, so the paint can't be damaged) and hang the engine from a chain wrapped around the timber. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2801 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| 924RACR wrote: | Yeah, I've never pulled mine without removing that engine mount.
I just throw a precision-cut 4x4" timber across the fenders (cut to fit inside the lip, so the paint can't be damaged) and hang the engine from a chain wrapped around the timber. |
Yeah something like that is the plan, i hope it works with metric timber aswell  _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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