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Bursch headers. Are they really that bad?

 
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Tanso  



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:45 am    Post subject: Bursch headers. Are they really that bad? Reply with quote

Do they crack all the time? Is there someone here who has one that works 100%?

http://www.automotion.com/headers-bursch-for-924-porsche-1976-1983.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've run them on my 911 race car for years with no problems. I ran them on my BMW 2002 race car and they cracked in about a year. Other BMW drivers had the same problem. 911 version is quite a bit different than the 4 cylinder water cooled versions.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think someone mentioned here that they solved some of their header problems by adding an extra hanger near the front of the exhaust.

There are flexible joints available now that you can use to alleviate added stresses to the header tubes and flanges.

Of course any header will eventually fail due to age and use. Good engine mounts and ceramic coating will help stave off their eventual death.

That said, there isn't much gain found in their use aside from weight loss.
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Tanso  



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm okay. Seems like a waste of money at this time if I don't find a used one for a good price.

From what I undertand there is a header from Stahl. Very expensive but never heard of one that cracked.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: Bursch headers. Are they really that bad? Reply with quote

There are headers available by Mittelmotor.
Price is around €349,00 for the steel version,
and €499 for the stainless steel header.
homegrown.
http://www.mittelmotor.de/content/news/activenews_view.asp?articleID=76
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set of used headers and the middle silencer special made from a Company in Germany. Only used on my 924 for max. 200km then i bought my 931 and sold the 924. The Price I payed was 1000 euro, but if you want you can give me an offer on a pm(I live in Copenhagen, Denmark, so it should be possible to get it to Sweden.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Bursch headers. Are they really that bad? Reply with quote

Harm wrote:
There are headers available by Mittelmotor.
Price is around €349,00 for the steel version,
and €499 for the stainless steel header.
homegrown.
http://www.mittelmotor.de/content/news/activenews_view.asp?articleID=76


Thanks for the tip! Those headers look top quality.

I contacted Mittelmotor and they have raised the price to 639€. Ouch!
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