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kenman1  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:56 am    Post subject: reviving sitting 1987 924s Reply with quote

My 1987 924s has been sitting idle in the garage for ten years now. It ran well went it was driven in there and was just shut off and the battery removed. We would like to start it again for use. A sad tale of regret for not keeping it started monthly. It only has 56k on it and I bought it new in 1986.

In such, I plan to:
-drain and replace the oil and filter.
-remove and replace the old gas and drain the fuel lines.
-clean up the air filter
-fog or squirt a little oil (or tranny fluid) into the cylinders
-handturn the engine over several revolutions or turn without the coil?
-turning it over with the starter with the plugs out to build up oil and fuel pressure
-add battery ang give it a go

Questions:
-Do I need to drop and drain the oil pan as well?
-Is there a gas tank drain plug or will I need to pump it out?
-Should I then add anything to the new gas?
-Is there a way to even hand crank the enginet? How? I am no mechanice, but a frind who is is helping out.

Anyother advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to damage anything, but can't spent a ton of money either. I would just like to get it at least started for now and go from there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can turn the engine by hand with a socket on the front pulley bolt. . .24mm socket.

However, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED!

You need to replace the timing belt, at a minimum, before attempting to fire the engine, turn it with the starter, or by hand.
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Paul  



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: reviving sitting 1987 924s Reply with quote

kenman1 wrote:
My 1987 924s has been sitting idle in the garage for ten years now. It ran well went it was driven in there and was just shut off and the battery removed. We would like to start it again for use. A sad tale of regret for not keeping it started monthly. It only has 56k on it and I bought it new in 1986.

In such, I plan to:
-drain and replace the oil and filter.
-remove and replace the old gas and drain the fuel lines.
-clean up the air filter
-fog or squirt a little oil (or tranny fluid) into the cylinders
-handturn the engine over several revolutions or turn without the coil?
-turning it over with the starter with the plugs out to build up oil and fuel pressure
-add battery ang give it a go

Questions:
-Do I need to drop and drain the oil pan as well? No but change the oil and filter.
-Is there a gas tank drain plug or will I need to pump it out? No drain, but you can pull the hose to the pump.

-Should I then add anything to the new gas? No
-Is there a way to even hand crank the enginet? How? I am no mechanice, but a frind who is is helping out.

Anyother advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to damage anything, but can't spent a ton of money either. I would just like to get it at least started for now and go from there. As Rasta said all the belts are toast and since this is an interference engine, if the timing belt slips or breaks, valves will be bent.


Welcome to the board nice to hear from an original owner that still has the car.

Answers above.
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dash16  



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
You can turn the engine by hand with a socket on the front pulley bolt. . .24mm socket.

However, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED!

You need to replace the timing belt, at a minimum, before attempting to fire the engine, turn it with the starter, or by hand.


but after the replacement of the timing belt its ok to turn it by hand, yes?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really see the problem with turning it by hand. It should require very little effort to turn the engine with a socket, and if it doesn't move, then don't force it!

If the engine spins freely, then it is most likely fine, but if if doesn't budge, then the valves were most likely toast beforehand. Gently bumping into the valves by using a socket will not cause damage to the valves or pistons. If you are met with resistance, simply stop!

There are people that have damaged their valves by doing this, but they had to have kept bouncing on the breaker bar when met with resistance. You are not going to have this problem if you are careful.

The reason so many belts break at idle, is because only one piston is firing at any given time in an inline-four. This causes the crank to speed up and slow down rapidly. This causes the crank to jerk, especially at idle, when the engine is turning its slowest.

Large inline fours like the 3.2 liter in the Ponitac Tempest could shatter chains. However, do not confuse this vibration with the vibration dampened by the balance shafts... they are not related.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remove the plugs before trying to turn it gently by hand after you have verified everything is in time.
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