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fiat22turbo
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Yup, though I got mine from CIP1.com (or .ca for you canuckistani's)
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Kenodog
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Awsome! Thanks Fiat22turbo.
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Cedric
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| fiat22turbo wrote: | | Yup, though I got mine from CIP1.com (or .ca for you canuckistani's) |
+1
Got 28mm bars, have punished them for a couple years on track, works fine.!
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nickthompson
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| So I guess that means our bars are 26 9/16 inches long. Thats good to know. |
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Rasta Monsta
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Shaggy has the 27mm bars from cip1, matched with 350# up front. QUITE stiff, but the grip. . .lordy!
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Kenodog
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Oh really ? I wonder if the 28mm/#250 combo might be a bit off then ...? According to the website the 28mm bars have a # rating of 258 which should be almost a perfect match to the fronts. Maybe I should get the 27mm bars and go for a bit of understeer instead. God I hate having to make these decisions.. 
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fiat22turbo
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Depends on the corner weights.
My 924 with its lightweight front end and 325# springs with 28mm rear bars, understeers a bit.
However a 931 with a steel front end might not be too bad with something like that.
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Power Tryp
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| nickthompson wrote: | | So I guess that means our bars are 26 9/16 inches long. Thats good to know. |
Yup, as stated in the tech section any VW bar with a 26 9/16" length are a match for our cars. http://www.924.org/techsection/technical.htm
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Cedric
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My 28s are matched to 350 springs, + stiffer sway bars (adjustable 28mm/ 22mm). Its very well balanced at the moment.
25 bars matches 250 pretty good on a standard car..
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Rasta Monsta
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With 205 up front and 225 in the rear, and 23/19 sways, Shaggy is 100% neutral.
Fwiw, slight oversteer setup on the race car is 450#/30mm, 26/20 sways.
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Kenodog
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Well the car came with 170# in the front and 25mm in the back so by upgrading to 250# inthr front there is no way the car will still be neutral. The plan for bits is 7&8 Fuchs with 205/225's, boxed control arms with poly bushings all around,21 sway up front and 18 in the back, and 250# springs with ? mm bars in the rear end. I have everything above already except the bars.
Suggestions now that you know the rest of the gear ? (Sorry, should have mentioned that before.)
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Grenadiers
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What are you going to use the car for? If lots of track days, the 250# springs might not be enough. Then swapping out the Torsion bars again, would not be fun.
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Kenodog
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| Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:39 am Post subject: |
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The car is just for fun. Maybe a track dwy here or there but mostly just stress relief.
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Grenadiers
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If I were me, I'd skip upgrading the bars and go with the rest of the plan. Install the 250# springs up front, the sways, and see what happens.
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