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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject: 928 S4 brakes on the 924 |
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I need a quick responce on this...i might have a chance to buy a set of 928 S BIG brembo brakes for lesser money.
the fronts are HUGE...bigger than the 951 ones.
the rears are like the 951.
the brake disks on this thing are twice the thickness of the 924/944 units.
the obvious question...will they fit on a 924 Carrera GT equipped 924?
that means...front steel arms with 944 NA brakes.
rear late aluminium arms with 944 NA brakes.
i'm wondering if i can fit the disks and calipers to the 924/944 spindles.
thanks in advance ! _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Dutch924-racer

Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 1081 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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I thinking you mean 928s4 calipers, these have the big ones in front, rear is the Same as951.
You need custom brackets and 944 turbo spindels. In the rear you need aloy arms.
You also need 17 inch wheels _________________ 937 trackday car
Series 2 engine
951S turbo and intercooler
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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custon brackets...hmm...dont like the sound of that..do they actually work? i mean without risks and failures?
i'm all set for the rears...my car is CGT equipped. so alloy arms on the rears and steelies on the front + i use 17" wheels...so thats not a problem for the rears.
but for the fronts....
951 spindles mean some more mods or needed parts on the steering rods.
damnit !
what about the booster? any need for upgrade? i use the ROW late 924/944 booster. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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flosho

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 3160 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if they are a good enough deal. You could buy them and at least save the rears to use and trade for regular 951 brakes + cash?
I think the guys over on rennlist have more than 1 type of adapter made to fit the 928s4 brakes. Unfortunately I do no have time until after work to really help you search. _________________ [This Space For Rent] |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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thanks flosho.
hmm..if they are good for the 951s they are good for the 924
i'll see what i can get them for...and if the deal is good i'll have them.
my new home does not have a heating system yet...and i'm upgrading the brakes on my 924 talk about being an idiot.. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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vdubr928
Joined: 26 Jun 2011 Posts: 39 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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The guys on the 928 boards will pay good money for the fronts. Biy them keep the rears and sell the fronts for profit. I just put a set on my 928 last year. Wow! _________________ 81 931
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Dutch924-racer

Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 1081 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: |
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I use the normal 951 brakes on my turbo, they are perfect.
I think the 928 S4 ones are a bit overkill for a 924 turbo. _________________ 937 trackday car
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Forge recirculation valve + boost controller |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: |
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probably then again i run a Carrera GT DITC, FMIC, K26/K27 hybrid turbo @ 1 bar and S2/951 gearbox. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Fifty50Plus

Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 1423 Location: Washington DC area
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: |
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If you are not running endurance races, don't bother with HUGH brakes. The 911 crowd is queer for brake Bling. Don't fall for it with your lighter car.
What Dutch924-Racer has will more than suffice.
Chuck _________________ 1979 924 NA race car H-Prod SCCA
1982 924 NA race car - Sold
1981 924 Turbo sold
1982 924 Turbo sold
1972 911 E race car - traded for Cayenne Diesel
1975 914 1.8 Building for H-Prod SCCA |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Fifty50Plus wrote: | If you are not running endurance races, don't bother with HUGH brakes. The 911 crowd is queer for brake Bling. Don't fall for it with your lighter car.
What Dutch924-Racer has will more than suffice.
Chuck |
thanks for the advice.
if i get the deal on those brakes i'll sell the fronts and get the 951 ones. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Lizard

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Be very careful with the front rear biasing, and be prepaired to buy a number of different pads for the front/rear to help achieve the right balance.
You will not be able to use the 928 front rotors, but you may be able to find another set of rotors which will work for you. Or you can have a custom set of 2 piece hats made for you. _________________ 3 928s, |
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vdubr928
Joined: 26 Jun 2011 Posts: 39 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| Lizard wrote: | Be very careful with the front rear biasing, and be prepaired to buy a number of different pads for the front/rear to help achieve the right balance.
You will not be able to use the 928 front rotors, but you may be able to find another set of rotors which will work for you. Or you can have a custom set of 2 piece hats made for you. |
Ditch the factory valve. Specially if you mix models. I don't know what the 924 uses but I was never fond of the early 928 proportioning valves. They are complicated. Buy an adjustable and set it how you like it. _________________ 81 931
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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got them
i went a bit over my initial buget...but hey....i need a brake upgrade anyway and they are quite nice.
i'll post pics when i get them off the car. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Nice . Hey did you check out .I'm sure u did!. Dans 968 brake club sport. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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well here they are, i also took the front hubs in hope that i can use those 928 disks also.
regarding the bling..yea..it comes with the size...but weight-wise...OH MY GOD !! the big calipers on the fronts are almost half the weight of the 944 calipers i'm using now !
The disks are not much heavyer on the fronts !
overall this braking system is quite alot lighter than what i have now (944 NA)
I dont see why i cant use these disks and calipers on the front of the 924.
IIRC i've seen this upgrade on a CS 924 once. i recall it was called "big 928 brakes upgrade"
i took the hubs out too...so i plan to install these hubs on the early 944 spindles (use the 928 fat disks) and make/buy an adaptor to install the calipers.
the reason i want to do this is...yea...lazyness...i dont want to sell then buy the 951 calipers....then buy pads...etc..
these things that i have in my trunk now are fit and run...the disks are good, the pads are good. they just need a cleaning job and some paint and they are ready to roll.
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