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mikeprce

Joined: 05 May 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:00 am Post subject: A little help here?? |
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How would i go about obtaining an engine rebuild kit for A 1979 924?? I FOUND A FEW FOR THE 944, BUT I HAD NO LUCK FOR MY CAR. _________________ '79 924
diamond in the rough
im 15 years old, purchased at 13 |
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mikeprce

Joined: 05 May 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:05 am Post subject: |
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and also, how much would it cost for somone to rebuild the engine for me, and drop it in my car? _________________ '79 924
diamond in the rough
im 15 years old, purchased at 13 |
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CorsePerVita

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1992 Location: Redmond, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:31 am Post subject: |
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i thought your car ran?
contact dan (ideola on the forums here) he sells them. and cost for a rebuild varies. depends on the machinist, the extent of what needs replaced/rebuilt. Could be $1000, could be thousands more... need more detail. _________________ - 1977 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (Trackday Project)
- 1979 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (The other daily)
- 1980 Porsche 931 (Daily)
- 1987 Lamborghini Jalpa
- 1999 Ducati 900SS |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:35 am Post subject: |
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No doubt everyone's gonna jump in and say, "Save your money, rebuild it yourself!" Or words to that effect.
Debatable as to whether that's actually true. If one assumes that you have no tools and no experience, and possibly no real interest in rebuilding an engine, it could well be worth spending the money to have it done professionally and in a timely manner (and it would probably be warrantied to some extent, possibly giving you a little extra peace of mind).
But it'll be costly. Certainly more costly than you expect (these cars are always like that). I couldn't give you a to-the-penny guesstimate (I doubt anyone here can and the Yanks will probably give all sorts of variable prices), you'd just have to go and get a quote from a shop. But if it's less than a couple of grand, I'd be surprised.
Some form of compromise is probably the most cost-effective i.e. take the engine out yourself, strip the ancillaries, clean it up to whatever extent is necessary, transport it to and from the shop, etc.
Of course, then come all the, "While you're at it" jobs...
As for a rebuild kit, I doubt there's any such thing. You'll probably need to get a combination of "kits" such as a head rebuild kit, a bottom-end rebuild kit, a clutch rebuild kit (I mean, hey, while you're at it...), etc.
Good luck with it. _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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CorsePerVita

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1992 Location: Redmond, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| Khal wrote: | But it'll be costly. Certainly more costly than you expect (these cars are always like that). I couldn't give you a to-the-penny guesstimate (I doubt anyone here can and the Yanks will probably give all sorts of variable prices), you'd just have to go and get a quote from a shop. But if it's less than a couple of grand, I'd be surprised.
Good luck with it. |
Yep, totally agreed. What was it someone told me here.... "There are 'rebuilds' and then there are REBUILDS...." so the cost could be a little or a lot. No doubt more than the car cost
And what is it with you always making "yank" referrals? That gets offensive sometimes my friend... I've not ever made a derogatory remark towards yourself or anywhere you live, why do you feel it's necessary to aim hostility this way? _________________ - 1977 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (Trackday Project)
- 1979 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (The other daily)
- 1980 Porsche 931 (Daily)
- 1987 Lamborghini Jalpa
- 1999 Ducati 900SS |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| CorsePerVita wrote: | | And what is it with you always making "yank" referrals? That gets offensive sometimes my friend... I've not ever made a derogatory remark towards yourself or anywhere you live, why do you feel it's necessary to aim hostility this way? |
I've been ribbing the Yanks on The 'Board for a good five years before you got here, and I'll probably continue to do so, unless the mod's tell me I'm not allowed to anymore. But don't fret, it's certainly not meant in a derogatory way, as I'm sure anyone here who knows me will attest. If you find it personally offensive, I apologise. That's not my intent. I'm just being jocular. Australians have always called people from the U.S.A. "Yanks". Just like we've always called Englishmen "Poms" -I vaguely recall one of their more fringe political parties tried to ban us from saying "Poms" on the grounds that it was a racial slur? I mean, seriously, even our news media use the terms "Yanks" and "Poms".
As to the comment on the variable prices, I was being honest. I reckon that's what probably would've happened and I was trying to point out that the only price that's really relevant is the one his shop gives him. _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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CorsePerVita

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1992 Location: Redmond, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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No worries then Khal. Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I am not used to the different ways it is used then. I took it as derogatory but I believe I'm associating it with some past experiences. It's easy to take things the wrong way without knowing how it was intended. Thank you for clearing that up, I'll disregard for future reference. I guess every time I've had it used in person it was in a derogatory sense so I am not used to it being used otherwise so it's easy for me to take it in a different way. Thanks, carry on. _________________ - 1977 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (Trackday Project)
- 1979 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (The other daily)
- 1980 Porsche 931 (Daily)
- 1987 Lamborghini Jalpa
- 1999 Ducati 900SS |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| CorsePerVita wrote: | | No worries then Khal. |
It's all good.
So, how about those engine rebuilds... _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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Min

Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 2368 Location: Vernon, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| Khal wrote: | | As for a rebuild kit, I doubt there's any such thing. You'll probably need to get a combination of "kits" such as a head rebuild kit, a bottom-end rebuild kit, a clutch rebuild kit (I mean, hey, while you're at it...), etc. |
EBS racing sells a engine rebuild kit. At least they did last time I did a engine rebuild. It was extremely affordable at the time.
Min _________________ Custom means it didn't come from a box.
1980 n/a with EDIS and Megasquirt II Injection. 7 different colors and counting. |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Rocco, thanks for the plug
Regarding rebuild "kits", what you need is going to depend entirely on how far you intend to go in the rebuild. At a minimum, you will probably need a crankcase gasket set, a head gasket set, and you should probably plan to replace the main bearings and rod bearings.
I've tried to come up with "kits" that make sense, but they are not comprehensive. For example, the head gasket kit doesn't include the throttle body gasket or the CSV gasket, so you'd need to get those separately. If you have the block properly cleaned and honed, you probably ought to get a freeze plug kit (which I've not yet added to the site, although it's in the works). And there will also be a high likelihood that you'll want or need a set of rings. Then, don't forget about tune up parts (filters, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, etc.); and while you're at it, what about all the coolant hoses? It adds up very quickly.
IMO, best thing to do if you're not experienced or if you don't have local resources who can advise you for free, is to take the motor to a shop that specializes in VW / Audi / Volvo, and have them tell you what needs to be replaced. I can help you source just about everything you'll need. To get an idea on pricing, take a look here:
http://garage.ideola.com/prod-Kits.html _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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mikeprce

Joined: 05 May 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:49 am Post subject: |
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k, thanks for all the help, and all i need is hoses, piston rings, gaskets, spark plug cables, fuel lines _________________ '79 924
diamond in the rough
im 15 years old, purchased at 13 |
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mikeprce

Joined: 05 May 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:51 am Post subject: |
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oh and my car does run, but when i floor it in first, the pick up is not impressive, im losing some major compression, and im burning mucho oil _________________ '79 924
diamond in the rough
im 15 years old, purchased at 13 |
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joejax

Joined: 02 Dec 2009 Posts: 919 Location: Jacksonville,FLA,USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| mikeprce wrote: | | my car does run, but when i floor it in first, the pick up is not impressive,... and im burning mucho oil |
Yep,... you've got a 924 there,... congrats!  _________________ I got nothin'
Uhhh...you got any pics? |
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D Hook

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3158 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| mikeprce wrote: | | k, thanks for all the help, and all i need is hoses, piston rings, gaskets, spark plug cables, fuel lines |
Are planning on pulling the motor to rebuild? _________________ '80 924 n/a SOLD |
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mikeprce

Joined: 05 May 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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im not planning on pulling the motor, since i do not have the proper equiptment, or facility, i am planning to slap a head gasket on, and replace everything that is not the engine _________________ '79 924
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