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931 head on 924 block whats the CR?
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ideola  



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are. Same big end, same little end, same stroke, same length. All of the critical dimensions are the same as stock rods except that the big end has a different configuration on the shoulders such that it will clear the block with no machining necessary. Take a look here for a refresher. There is no reason that anyone NOT doing a stroker couldn't use these rods for a stock rebuild.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how are you increasing the stroke? Are you having a custom crank made?
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, already made. Two of them. Rod journals were welded with more material then offset ground to add .25" to the stroke.

This was the design intent right from the beginning. We were given bad information (intentionally???) by a couple of well known 924 performance shops that told us we would not need custom rods to build a stroker. What they neglected to mention is that no custom rods means significant grinding on the block. Tom and I both discussed and decided that custom rods with a smaller shoulder profile (stronger & lighter) was preferable to removing material from the block, and possibly ruining it, since there's not much empirical information on where the water jackets are and such. It was the better alternative for both of us, and Crower assured us they could make a replacement rod that met our criteria. They delivered.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suprised you haven't had your block xray'd
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Rich H  



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK opinions then please:

I have just got notice that my main bearings have just turned up (Cheers Dan! I've just got to pay import tax on them now ) so I'm going to start on my engine build soon, I was going for N/A with a tweaked CR by skimming the block, but my spare crank needs grinding anyway as it's scratched.

So, instead of skimming the block and grinding the crank how about weld and regrind the crank offset by ~1mm: better CR (Aiming for ~10:1) and slightly (Just!) longer stroke, probably have it balanced too.

Worth the effort or not?

Idea is to go for a road engine with a wee bit more go.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the exhaust manifold of a 2.0 NA fit the 931cilinderhead?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Been there done that.

It's not with the effort to try and fit the turbo head. Buy a turbo instead - I promise it's better value!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okey, thanks for the quick answer!
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