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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: Improving 931 Head Lubrication |
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I was looking through Peter Morgan's 924/944/968 book this morning, and found the following cryptic passage:
| Peter Morgan, page 121 wrote: | | The oil spray tube. . .can break off. . .better Porsche specialists can advise on an easy modification which improves the lubrication to the Turbo's cylinder head. |
Um, like what?
rasta _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: |
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interested. got any leads on where to search ?? _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9064 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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IIRC mgatlag told me his guys who'd done his engine had replaced the plastic fitting with some kind of threaded fitting.
I've not yet had any issues with the stock plastic one, though I do use a new one... _________________ Vaughan Scott
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'82 931 Plat. Silver
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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2806 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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The engine that came in my 924 when i bought it had a cracked plastic elbow. And I can say that the wear on the camshaft was severe. A better solution wuld be nice.... _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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I inferred from the passage that he was talking about changing something more than just the elbow, but I could be mistaken. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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tuurbo

Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1446 Location: East Windsor, New Jersey
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I inferred from the passage that he was talking about changing something more than just the elbow, but I could be mistaken. |
This is what happens when writers leave readers hanging like this. This 'mod' sounds like rumour he can't remember the specifics about - but assuming it's true based on racer's experience - the existing plastic piece seems fine to me. The manual says 'check' and 'replace if necessary'. A permanent elbow there? Not overly important to me. Replace the plastic piece and forget about it.
I am not sure i'd buy a modified camshaft lubrication tube for that head. |
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462avi

Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Hollister, California
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: |
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This mod really would not be very hard. You would tap the hole where the plastic elbow goes for a threaded swageloc elbow. Then using the swageloc portion crimp the ferrel down on the oiling tube. By using this particular kind of elbow it is still easily removable. Mcmaster Carr carries all of this stuff (e.g. p/n 5305K462). The real question is how necessary is this mod?
Geoff _________________ 2005 C230K
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Petrovich
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 235 Location: Rockville, MD
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Yes. Because I just spent 3 weeks waiting for that elbow, and it's still not here.
A metal elbow would be nice. _________________ 1982 924 Turbo, now Lemon |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Be careful of the expansion rate of whatever you decide to use, cracking that cap will trash the head. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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baldwin
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 113 Location: The Hague, The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it's about the elbow, it's about this:
That's my engine about two weeks ago. _________________ 924 parts, http://verkopers.marktplaats.nl/10266983
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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Aha! - the infamous tube cracking off at the end trick. Not uncommon enough..
Leaves you with ample lube of cyl #4's lobes-tappets, but much less for the rest, + lower overall oil pressure.  _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
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