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Coco_Lev
Joined: 04 May 2020 Posts: 81 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:32 pm Post subject: Pulse sender manufacturing 93160602100 - 931 606 021 000 |
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Hi all,
I've gathered everything needed to make new reference sensors.
One of you asked me to keep the community updated before launching the project.
I also thought to make the washer below the sensor and to give it with the sender, but it appears this part is not really essential as not present on all cars besides the manual. Hence, I think I will let this idea.
My target price was 125€ for the first parts w/o shipping and it seems realistic. If we can do less we will try but I can't promise the moon neither.
I know alternatives exists, but are not as cheaper as what I could provide, are not perfect from what I know (even if interesting on other features) and I think it's still interesting to keep the original car configuration when it's possible.
Now I just need your feelings prior to concretely launch the project. It doesn't represent a small investment to solve an issue which already has solutions (as explained). However I can't resign to let such speculation for the community...
Cheers
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Cedric
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2608 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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If you could make it for 125Eur you will have many customers around the world, several parts suppliers would probably want to buy it aswell. Maybe you should even give porsche classic a call, i guess they have customers from time to time that asks about it (A shame that Porsche themself haven taken care of it, they mostly introduce parts that are already available and not critical). Theres not really a good option without compromises, so this would be a good option, since most of the other parts of the DITC system rarely fails and are pretty cheap to buy second hand. _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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Coco_Lev
Joined: 04 May 2020 Posts: 81 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Cedric,
Thanks for your kind message.
125€ would be for the first parts. Others must turn around 150 we'll see how could we do.
Porsche will never take the risk to deal non original parts. They could make new ones even if their original equipement supplier stopped its activity. But they don't care about these unloved Porsche. It's not an interesting market for them. I thought to deal with shops. Unfortunately, it won't be possible to keep a such price, it would be more expensive (>200€) than what I could offer if I directly sell the sensors. My aim is to keep as decent prices as I can for the community. But maybe things will evolve, nothing is freezed by now. |
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Carrera RSR
Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2309 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Good luck with the project. Many have tried and failed to secure a solution. I hope you can succeed. Thankfully my cars are not tied to the need of the crank sensor. But many are. _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
Now www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=34690
Then www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=31252 |
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GregSC
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 122 Location: Lovely, KY
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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I would definitely purchase a functional sensor from you! _________________ 1981 931 |
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Fasteddie313
Joined: 29 Sep 2013 Posts: 2596 Location: MI
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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It’s hard for me to believe these things are so hard to reverse engineer and reproduce..
Come on.. We have 3D printers, and if one can wind their own guitar pickups one should be able to wind their own pickup sensors..
Ain’t rocket science, this is early 1980s tech.. _________________ 80 Turbo - Slightly Modified |
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Mike9311
Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1678 Location: Chicago-ish
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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In this case it actually is somewhat hard to get it exactly if you want to reproduce. I have been speaking with Cocolev and helping where I can.
I actually wanted to do the same but he has more information. I had one bad sensor that I have been slowly digging into to figure it all out. If you are trying to get it exact there is a ferrite core shape like a castle tower that I can't find anywhere from google to Alibaba. The coil part is easy enough for me
If he comes up with a solution I will buy one or two _________________ 1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
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Coco_Lev
Joined: 04 May 2020 Posts: 81 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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The aim is to make a new one respecting the exact technical specifications, cotations, process and requirements as the original was of course I've everything there including running components, OEM 931 sensor supplier data, and more to lead this project by now.
I think it is a bit hard to print this sensor as you have electrical components embedded into a polymer matrix. It's not like a mount or any part made of a single component/material.
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morghen
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Important stuff is Vpp and geometry...i doubt that internal construction makes a difference...the ditc is a crude analogue machine...all you need the replacement sensor to do is to match the voltage output that Vpp value and have the right geometry to fit....sensor gap is also a big factor. _________________ https://www.the924.com |
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POORscheMAN
Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 104 Location: Norwich NY
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:17 am Post subject: |
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I would definitely buy one. _________________ 1978 924
Audi 5K Throttle Body - 10:1 comp
Stage 1 Cam -MSD coil- Crane XR700 ignition - Headers
260# springs -26mm rear TBars-
poly bushings -Weltmeister sway bars
1980 924 N/A -- stock
1982 931
1988 944
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Coco_Lev
Joined: 04 May 2020 Posts: 81 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I should be able to deliver them in end of August or September if everything happens as expected.
Will keep updated.
Regards |
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Cedric
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2608 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Coco_Lev wrote: | I should be able to deliver them in end of August or September if everything happens as expected.
Will keep updated.
Regards |
Do you have all the technical specifications and coil design sorted? If you need i have a spare sensor without cable that could be cut up if you need for the project. _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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Coco_Lev
Joined: 04 May 2020 Posts: 81 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Cedric for your proposal. I have everything yet. |
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antoninosavoca
Joined: 27 Jun 2016 Posts: 10 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Cedric , i will be interested to buy one when you finish .
Good look.
Ciao
Antonino (Italy) |
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Coco_Lev
Joined: 04 May 2020 Posts: 81 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Sensor development is poursuing well.
Here are first samples made.
Will let know about the release date and price. It's a matter of weeks now |
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