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trying to wrap my head around installing an AFR gauge..

 
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Fasteddie313  



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:17 am    Post subject: trying to wrap my head around installing an AFR gauge.. Reply with quote

the biggest confusion for me is how to keep the stock lambda system happy.. like..

can a wideband sensor produce both wide and narrow at the same time without a "simulator"? like directly? bosche 5 wire??

a simulated narrow band signal from a wideband unit can lag and reduce the performance of the stock lambda?

do you have to just install a second bung for your wideband and run 2 o2 sensors?

so its wideband sensor, sensor controller, and gauge..

controller in the gauge? in sensor? in between?

all afr gauges compatible with sensor/controller combinations?

i just want to end up with a simple non rice gauge, lambda working as intended, and hopefully not having to install another bung in the exhaust..

what am i missing here?

along with a boost/vac next to afr ill be able to really see, and understand whats going on real time in my engine so i can better instantly recognize any problem that may arise and be confident that things are working correctly so im not afraid its going to blow up on me because i feel im blind..

it seems to run perfect.. that's what scares me.. too good to be true..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quit reinventing the wheel here, just get an AFR setup, which requires a second bung. I have this, works great, any exhaust shop can weld in the bung, or do it yourself!

http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/innovate-standalone-gauge-kit-lc2-g4-analog-gauge-3821-p-328.html
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Innovate-NEW-3844-MTX-L-Wideband-O2-AFR-UEGO-gauge-kit-w-Sensor-Included-/271270570096?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f28fc6870&vxp=mtr
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My innovate lc-1 had two programmable outputs, just set one up as a narrowband and off you go (in fact, one was setup as narrowband default)

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you think of the performance your getting out of the narrow band signal simulator if your useing that for your lambda system?

any experience watching its reactions with a dwell meter on the frequency valve straight sensor vs simulator?

i thought i read somewhere about wideband's narrow band simulation outputs giving unfavorable results due to lag...

ill dive into that innovative n see what i can learn about it...
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