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tyfighter123  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject: Guess the horse power???? Reply with quote

Ok so I finished up my rebuild back in April and put my breakin miles on it. Here is the list of mods

-Big valve kit
-Ported head
-Bored out to 87.5mm
-New Diamond pistons 9.5:1 compression
-New solid lifters from group buy
-Reground stage 1 integral cam
-Bursch 2.5" exhaust

I also lightened the rods and the flywheel.

The ignition and fuel systems are stock.

So after the first 2000 miles I put it on the dyno. I am at 4800 ft and it was about 90 degress outside any guesses on what the wrhp and torque were.................?
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CorsePerVita  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

25hp!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baawwwwhhhhh.......good one
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ideola  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you pleasantly surprised or mildly disappointed?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ideola wrote:
Were you pleasantly surprised or mildly disappointed?


pleasantly disappointed and mildly surprised?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mildly disappointed.....but hoping for more...........
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ideola  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

135BHP
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

105 at the wheels
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morghen  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you have like 1HP more? you need to fine tune it.
What was the torque...got a graphic?
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Raceboy  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dynos are so different and hp depends on number of things. Going to 1/4 mila and doing a run there (with soft launch) gives you trap speed and knowing your cars weight (total, with you etc), the online calculators even give quite accurate result.

Did you verify engines AFR abd ignition advance?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering there's about a 35% loss through the drivetrain that's not terrible. What does the butt dyno tell you?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Guess the horse power???? Reply with quote

tyfighter123 wrote:

The ignition Any fuel systems are stock.


That's part of your problem there. Any system that requires the air flow into the engine to move a plate for fuel to flow can't be good for power production. In know all the claims of K-jetronics ablity to support more power but flow is very important to power production.
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Raceboy  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is nowhere near 35% drivetrain loss on 924. It is more like 15% being RWD (~20% region on AWD cars) and also depends on MANY things, for gearbox example oil temperature, wheel bearings, tires etc etc.

Like I mentioned, check the mixture at WOT with WBo2 meter and verify that your base ignition advance is correct (10 degrees BTDC on Euro cars, dunno on US ones). If Euro vs US distributors have different advance curves, swap to Euro unit.
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Cedric  



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Running at sea level would probably give you about 15% more hp, if you only take air pressure int account. Alltitude severly kills power on a n/a engine.

But thats the thing with roller dynos, the only thing you can actually compare with is a before-after run. Even things like tyre pressure will affect the results..

Get a stock 924 up on the same dyno, wih similar tyre setup, then you will have a reference to compare to.

Giving it some more sparkadvance and tuning the AFRs might get you some hp more.
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tyfighter123  



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. I started at 96 rwhp and we tuned it up to the results in the charts.



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