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PorscheLover86  



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:56 am    Post subject: Marble Sound in Engine? Reply with quote

Recently i had the car sitting outside for a week or 2 while i waited on a new starter. I got the starter put it on, drained and refilled the oil and took it for a drive.. during that drive i heard a sound like a marble rattling around in the engine.. it stopped for a while but then came back as i was idling at a stoplight.. but i'm not sure about what it is.. anyone have any ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One possibility is a faulty injector leaning out a cylinder and causing an engine knock.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

which may explain the decline in power. its also stuttering when im cruising.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your oil pressure gauge doing?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PorscheLover86 wrote:
which may explain the decline in power. its also stuttering when im cruising.


stuttering indicates a lean mixture too.
So I think it's either a clogged injector like fifty50plus says, or an air leak (what's the term for that? we call it 'false air')
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well now. I can assure you all that that marbl sound was certainly not a ping.. That was my engines way of telling me you have 10 miles left. As I cruised down 95 at 75 In the far left lane.. That marble turned into a chatter which turned into a racket followed by my engine shutting down.. By the grace of god I was able to get it across 3 lanes of traffic and onto the shoulder where I restarted it figuring it can't get any wirse than this and limped it to the nearest gas station. I write this as I'm in the tow truck on the way home.. As a warning.. If you hear a noise from ur engine.. Ccheck it out.. Or have it checked out.. So you don't end up like this guy.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any holes in the side of the block?

Mmmm, ugly autopsy photos!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spun bearing? Rod knock?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as soon as it stops raining the autopsy will begin and photo's will accompany the information.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PorscheLover86 wrote:
So you don't end up like this guy.


So, what has two thumbs and blew his motor?

(sorry. . .laugh or cry!)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: Marble Sound in Engine? Reply with quote

First sound could suggest a broken oiltube hanging over the cam.
[ Excessive oil runs down the valves at #4 // Outlet valve #4 burns // Los of power // Running on three pistons ]

The abrupt ending sounds more like
eaten piston rings at piston one.
Was there excessive smoke?
Your plugs will help you proving that;
Picture a candle stub melting…

I have experienced both,
both without (marble) noise from the engine…
Just gradual loss of throttle responce.

Good luck.
Regards, Harm.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a very similar problem in a 258 once. A main bearing cap bolt had backed out. The shaft of the bolt was still in the hole, but the head of the bolt was rattling against the oil pan. Sounded exactly like a bad knock. Noise increased with RPMs, etc.

In a 258, if you have 5 of 7 mains intact, there's usually no problems. In a four cylinder, it might take out the rest of the mains............
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd bank on the oiltube.. Oil pressure dropped to zero immediately before the engine went out.. Sounded like a hammer slamming into metal over and over whenever I let out of the clutch. I'm gonna take it apart.. Lookin for a new engine now.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no smoke at any point..
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm betting on a failed oil tube or something in the top end -- cam, cam follower, valve...tho that loss of oil pressure is not a good sign.

Sorry to hear. If you get pickies, please post. If you need parts, please post.
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