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[craigddavis83]

Who's running 924's in the SCCA's? What classes do they stick you in and what mods are allowed in the classes before getting bumped up. More importantly what classes can the cars be competitive in?
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1977 924 2.0L N/A "The Track Car" (soon!)
1995 Integra 1.8L "The Wife's Sleeper"
1968 Harley XLCH "The Family Heirloom"
2005 Honda CRF50 "The Pit Bike of Doom"

[924RACR]

Road Racing or Autox???

Chris Marsh and I have a pair of ITB '79's. They're dominant.
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Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype

[craigddavis83]

I was thinking improved touring I'm just trying to figure out the steps of my build as the funds come in and the car goes through the ranks. I know that you go up in class has you upgrade and I want to do it in a way that keeps it fair and competitive.
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1977 924 2.0L N/A "The Track Car" (soon!)
1995 Integra 1.8L "The Wife's Sleeper"
1968 Harley XLCH "The Family Heirloom"
2005 Honda CRF50 "The Pit Bike of Doom"

[924RACR]

Then don't upgrade. ITB is the only place the 924 is competitive; they're badly outclassed in Prod, IMO, and not even on the radar in GT.

Besides, you can easily spend enough on the car in IT, anyway.

Are you new to racing? How about DE?

One of the biggest pitfalls for those modifying a street car, with an eye to racing later, is taking off something they'll need later to be legal.
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Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype

[Fifty50Plus]

I believe Craig is thinking about what they do in NASA. You do certain things to your car, they bump you up a class. Not so in SCCA's Improved Touring B class. You do certain things (ahem) to your car, they disqualify you.

Chuck
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1979 924 NA race car H-Prod SCCA
1982 924 NA race car - Sold
1981 924 Turbo sold
1982 924 Turbo sold
1972 911 E race car - traded for Cayenne Diesel
1975 914 1.8 Building for H-Prod SCCA

[fiat22turbo]

Which is why many local regions have a "Super Production" class to be a catchall for cars that don't fit into a specific class.

However, like has been said, if you're running in ITB and you're found illegal, you won't be bumped to SPU, instead you'll be bounced out of competition. This is of course if someone in your class files a protest against you. Don't rely on the tech inspectors to ensure you're legal for your class, they're looking at your safety equipment based on the rules you're racing under.
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Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)

[bcblase]

What class does the 924S fall under?
Is it competitive in that class?
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1987 Porsche 924S - track toy
1986 Mercedes 190E 2.3-16v - autocross
2007 F-150 5.4L Lariat Supercrew - tow beast
1994 Volvo 850 Race Wagon - 24 Hours of Lemons Car
2001 BMW 325xi - daily driver

[fiat22turbo]

924S runs with the 944 in the Spec 944 or I believe ITA and it should be competitive when properly prepped.

The SCCA rule book is available online, I suggest anyone interested go read it completely as it is the final word on the subject.
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Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)

[924RACR]

Actually no, the 924S is with the 944 and 944S in ITS.

I haven't seen any particularly competitive ones, no. If you can get them down to weight (2575 IIRC), they might be, if you know how to pedal.

Much more expensive than a 924 2.0/ITB car though. Will also be a bit tougher to go quite as fast as a 944, too, since you give up a decent bit of track due to the narrow body...
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Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype

[924RACR]

Craig - drop me an email if you want to talk further, in depth, about SCCA racing and what to do with a '24...
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Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype

[craigddavis83]

Thanks to everyone for the input and yes I am new to racing. I don't really want to turn the car into a driver I have plenty of cars for that. So I figured I would race it. I live very close to Summitt Point and I figured I might as well get it on the track. I don't want to finish dead last but I don't expect to win every race either you know. What I thought is as you upgraded you went up through the IT classes i guess I'm wrong there?
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1977 924 2.0L N/A "The Track Car" (soon!)
1995 Integra 1.8L "The Wife's Sleeper"
1968 Harley XLCH "The Family Heirloom"
2005 Honda CRF50 "The Pit Bike of Doom"

[924RACR]

Will shoot you an email this AM... be prepared to read a book...
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Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype

[fiat22turbo]

[Rasta Monsta]

[fiat22turbo]

Yeah, the trade off between the 924S and the 944 is speed in a straight line versus a little more grip in the corners versus slightly less weight to toss around (though if you can get them both to the same weight, the one with the lower center of gravity and better corner weights will likely be slightly better all other things being equal)

I still think there needs to be a 924 cup here in the states. There are so many forlorn 924 na's around that getting a bunch together and racing them makes a lot of sense. Instead the 944 guys steal our thunder.
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Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)