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Slam
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Wainwright, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: Gentlemen, I'm about to become an official member |
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of the 924 community.
I found a 1985 924 Euro in Edmonton and have worked out a deal for $1200 for it. Ever since my wife Mandy and I got her 931 (which died a horrible death) I've been in love with the 924. Her auto is charming, and we got a 79 parts car for it not too long ago. Even though that one was dying, I drove it a couple of times and wanted a good one for myself.
This 85 924 exactly what I wanted, from the hi-comp pistons to the manual windows to the conservative dark grey color. Oil pressure's excellent, interior is good and (get this) the battery box doesn't leak! I will have to do some body work. Chrenan's hooking me up with a source for Euro bumper mounts 'cause at some point it took a hit to the front that lunched them. Frame looks straight. Driver's fender needs refinishing, too, but the rest of the body is very good. No rust anywhere I could see. Wheels refinished at a cost of more than what I'm paying for for the car.
I think I got a good deal. I've been driving my 83 944 for so long and I'm kinda bored with it. And I've had enough of front-of-engine services for now.
So what should I look out for with the 85 Euro? _________________ '84 944 - kid blew motor
'83 944 - resting comfortably. For 12 years
'87 944 - sideswiped by trucker
'80 924 - gone
'78 924 - gone
'77 924 - rusting comfortably |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: Re: Gentlemen, I'm about to become an official member |
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| Slam wrote: | | So what should I look out for with the 85 Euro? |
Twisties  _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Chrenan

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Me and Simon are now sworn enemies as he snatched up an '85 Euro right under my nose in my own town. I'm a failure.
 _________________ 1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan |
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Chrenan

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: |
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I am sort of curious that such a late car has manual windows. Did a previous owner swap them in? Does it have a sunroof? Power mirrors? 5-bolt wheels?
The manual windows make me wonder if someone ordered a lightly optioned version for track duty. Does it have a LSD? _________________ 1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan |
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Slam
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Wainwright, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Sunroof - yup. But it's the wretched power one. The console isn't original to the car, so there are no controls for it. There's a project for me.
Yes, I thought the manual windows were strange, too. Even more so when I found the 79 wreck we got has power windows. And they work! Power windows bug me. Dunno why. It's got a power release for the hatch, too, which is odd. And checker pattern rear seats.
4-bolt spiderweb wheels and a factory aluminum mag for a spare. Power mirrors. Don't know about LSD yet.
Ideola - where I live, I've got the perfect twistie testing highway. My 944 has frightened many people on it. Me included.
Anyone know if the Euro 924 engine is interference? I assume it's not. _________________ '84 944 - kid blew motor
'83 944 - resting comfortably. For 12 years
'87 944 - sideswiped by trucker
'80 924 - gone
'78 924 - gone
'77 924 - rusting comfortably |
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: |
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The 85 Euro 924 is almost exactly the same as a 82 US Market 924.
Almost every one I have seen is the same Platinum Metallic color as my 81 Weissach Special Edition, except for one I spoted that was repainted from Platinum Metallic to Guards Red.
Differences that can be spotted are the later style of plastic hose used on 944 (larger diameter with a color stripe sometimes), and slightly different printing font on some labels.
Engine is NOT INTERFERENCE, it's the same engine (lower hp) as a late US Market car. Injection and electrics are the same as a US Market car also, not the same as earlier (79 and earlier Euro Market cars). |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: |
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If you get that roof working correctly, I think you'll like it. I love the one on Red (but, I did NOT love phutzing with it to get it dialed in).
HINT: The clutch mechanism is the key. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Slam
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Wainwright, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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gohim - why would anyone want a guards red Porsche? They're everywhere! The one I'm picking up is roughly the same color as Khal's 931, given the photos of Khal's car I've seen. PO says this one came from Germany, brought back by one of the military. So that would make it 125HP.
I found the interesting combination of 944-type creature comforts and options and 924 standard features intriguing.
Rasta - thanks for the tip. I've got some spare power sunroof parts kicking around so eventually I'll get it working. _________________ '84 944 - kid blew motor
'83 944 - resting comfortably. For 12 years
'87 944 - sideswiped by trucker
'80 924 - gone
'78 924 - gone
'77 924 - rusting comfortably |
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: |
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By 1985 Porsche moved to the "one world horsepower policy". Means all cars for all markets would have engines rated at the same horsepower. Not all Euro Market 924 cars are 125hp (but most are).
While Porsche stopped actively marketing the 924 in the U.S., private customers were allowed to order new cars manufacturered to US Specs that could be imported privately by their owners.
Over the years I have seen close to ten post 1982 924 cars that were privately imported into the US. They have all been basically the same, like time stopped after 1982.
Euro Spec cars are not allowed to be imported by US Federal Law unless they are converted to US Spec (that includes emissions controls, emissions specs, and safety (install side door guard beams, safety glass, safety bumpers, US spec headlights, and sidemarkers)), etc...
Of course since you are in Canada, the laws may be different, but I don't think so. Canadian Specs are basically the same as US. That's why the US Market Spec. is Officially "North American Spec". |
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J1NX3D

Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1333 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| Slam wrote: |
Yes, I thought the manual windows were strange, too. Even more so when I found the 79 wreck we got has power windows. And they work! Power windows bug me. Dunno why. It's got a power release for the hatch, too, which is odd. |
thats not too suprising. some 944 nicities made it to the 944 as standard- power sunroof, power wing mirrors and power hatch release while power windows were still options. iirc it should have a 931 rear spoiler too? i believe later euros got them like the '85 i saw yesterday.
 _________________ '86 944
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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The 4 bolt spiderwebs have a 70mm bolt. The standard rim uses 40mm bolts.
Either get another rim or 4 bolts to carry with you otherwise the spare is useless.
(also the sizes are different 14" and 15") _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
Engineer of Electro/Mechanical Systems Maintenance |
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77Porsche924

Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 168 Location: Aldergrove B.C.
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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hmm... that license plate on that 85' NA could be read to say "Effed.."
heh... _________________ 1977 Porsche 924
Classified Car Tips It's like the bible for craigslisting. |
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Slam
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Wainwright, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: |
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That white one is gorgeous. The one I've bought has the 931 spoiler, too.
Gohim, I'm not exactly sure about what the car would have gone through to legalize it here in Canada. I do know that we in Alberta don't have to pass emissions tests (yet), which will probably mean it hasn't been altered too much from its Euro state. I did look for items like air pumps, lots of vac hoses to various switches and valves, and found very little. I still haven't picked up the car yet. Mandy has to be there (road trips for Porsches are high on our list of connubial activities) and I've been working on her 924 and my 944 this weekend.
Ozzie - what's a good source for wheel bolts? Or better yet, stud conversions?
When the car does finally get here I'll try to get some pics up for you guys. _________________ '84 944 - kid blew motor
'83 944 - resting comfortably. For 12 years
'87 944 - sideswiped by trucker
'80 924 - gone
'78 924 - gone
'77 924 - rusting comfortably |
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Chrenan

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Slam, I've got some of the long wheel bolts if you are in need.
I bet that is a grey market import car from years back. Alberta is known for being one of the prime jurisdictions in Canada where you can get away with importing and registering just about anything. _________________ 1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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if the car has spiderwebs on it, and has a standard 8 spoke spare, it's the shorter lugs he'll be needing... _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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