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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:30 am Post subject: First PIR-DE This Friday |
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You all know I hate to talk about myself, but. . .
Shaggy gets his first track time of 2007 on Friday. The weather is cooperating, should be sunny and in the 60s. . .so we'll find out what the new brakes, wheels, tires & sway bars can do!
Oh, and it's the non-chicane configuration, so we should be well into 5th before braking for the old 3rd gear Turn One!
 _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Well, the DE was awesome. I was conerned about the front straight speeds and braking being stressful, but concluded that slowing for, and maneuvering through the chicane is more so. . .it really breaks up the character of the rest of the track.
The tires and brakes were outstanding, and Shaggy ran well. There was a slight issue was with handling. . .I have a little too much push due to staggered tire sizes. So, before the next track day, the old sway bar will go back on the front, and I can see if the balance improves.
It also seemed as if I had a fuel delivery problem of some sort. WHen I shifted into 5th, all acceleration ceased, and the car cut out a few times at 6k+ in 4th. So, I am changing out both fuel pumps & accumulator this weekend. Next DE is this coming Tuesday, but it looks like rain, so I don't have a lot of interest. Next after that is 4/29, which will be a GO, weather permitting.
Damn, this is fun! _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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-nick

Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: |
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What front swaybar are you running currently? You could just increase your rear bar with the 19mm 968 part to get rid of the push. They were $141 when I picked mine up a few years ago. The car felt pretty well balanced at a/x but I haven't gotten it out to a DE yet. Fooling with tire pressures & a pyrometer could help too.
The fuel cut is weird. Isn't the rev limiter in the fuel pump relay on our cars? You could bridge the relay and try a 6k+ run to see if you can repeat the problem. Maybe the limiter is kicking in early.
Accumulators are usually good unless they're visibly leaking. Fuel pump is definitely a possibility.
Sounds like great fun though  _________________ 1980 931S
15psi boost, MS-II, EDIS, 951 IC, custom intake, Ford 5.0L throttle body, Forge BOV, WB o2, G31 w/LSD, 964 wheels, 968 rear sway, Bilsteins, 200# Welt. springs. A laptop, and a partridge in a pear tree.
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Front sway bar is the optional 23, rear is the optional 14. I am considering putting the original 21mm unit back on the front. Is this the 19mm rear you are using?
As for the cutting out, it's definately a starvation problem. . .cutout doesn't occur in lower gears. I also just learned my fuel filter is in backwards, so that likely isn't helping. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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-nick

Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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^ yep, that's the one. It went up a whopping $8! Bolts right in very easily. I have mine set to the middle stiff setting.
Yikes! replace that filter! _________________ 1980 931S
15psi boost, MS-II, EDIS, 951 IC, custom intake, Ford 5.0L throttle body, Forge BOV, WB o2, G31 w/LSD, 964 wheels, 968 rear sway, Bilsteins, 200# Welt. springs. A laptop, and a partridge in a pear tree.
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Um yeah. . .it never would have occured to me (or the PO, apparently) that flow through that damn thing would be toward the rear of the car. . .
Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, I ordered the rear sway bar. We'll see how it goes, and I still have the option of softening the front later on down the line. . . _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9075 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:48 am Post subject: |
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That's the same rear bar I'm using, I find it an excellent match for the 23mm front bar (I'm still using that as stock). Of course I've changed my spring rates and t-bars, but the balance is still very much as per stock excluding the rear bar change. I rarely find myself wanting it at full stiff! I feel it's an excellent value. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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Rasta Monsta

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: |
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So Vaughan, you are using the middle adjustment as well? _________________ Toofah King Bad
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924RACR

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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924RACR

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| -nick wrote: | | Accumulators are usually good unless they're visibly leaking. |
Changed everything out. Had some diagnostic fun as well. . .I ran the new pumps with the vent screw removed from the old accumulator. . .massive fuel spray out of the hole!
I don't think they are supposed to do that. . . _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Have you checked your overboost switch and the wire that's attached to it?
You are correct about the accumulator, when you remove the test screw, no fuel should leak out. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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19mm bar is installed, and my first impressions are AY CARAMBA. Balance at last! Car responds better, turns in quicker, and feels nice and nimble.
We have a PCA "Arrive & Drive" tomorrow morning, so I'll get to work it out a bit more, but so far, GREAT purchase. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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so...what do you have installed now on the front and on the rear 21F and 19R ? _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9075 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | 19mm bar is installed, and my first impressions are AY CARAMBA. Balance at last! Car responds better, turns in quicker, and feels nice and nimble.
We have a PCA "Arrive & Drive" tomorrow morning, so I'll get to work it out a bit more, but so far, GREAT purchase. |
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