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marky522  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to know what is involved in making a stock 81 924 a track car?
and i would like to know where would i race it??? HOw would i find events??? I know that 924Racr could ansewer this one but i pissed him off(SORRY)!!!! I am interested because i am investing in my 3rd 924, and i want to make (i think) it a track car but i dont want to dump thousands upon thousands into a car.

Thanks for the info.

Mark
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first thing to do is pick the type of racing you want to do. Drag, rally, rallycross, autocross, road course, demolition derby, etc. Then go to club sites like scca.org or pca.org and look for clubs and events in your area. Another good source for information is Grassroots Motorsports Magazine.
Until you know what type of racing interests you, you won't know how to build up your car. Each organization and each series have their own set of rules and specs. It is impossible to build a car that can be competitive in all types of racing. As for cost of entry, autocross is likely to be the cheapest with rally and road racing being the most expensive.
Get the book Drive to Win by Carroll Smith. If you read it and still want to go into racing, then best of luck!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think that i was thinking about autoX, i believe that is what most of the porces (924's) are in isnt it??? Maybe you guys could help me decide?? I need a class that would allow me to run mainly stock but do a few upgrades here and there. As it is i have to rebuild the motor cause its got a bad headgasket so any small stuff i could do while i was in there would be nice.

Thanks in Advance
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is going on in you area? In Austin I am somewhat limited because my car isn't licensed and insured, and it has no heater, headlights, or AC! Thus, I will need a truck and trailer before I can go to some of the road courses that are 3-4 hours away.
I am focusing on AX because it is closer, you don't need as much safety equipment, and entry fees are lower. Also, you'd don't need much more than stock to have fun in AX. I would recommend some good struts and shocks, fresh brakes or a disk conversion, and some good tires. As for the engine, you can try the port and polish that some on this board are doing, but be sure to read the rules of whoever is running your events first! If you actually want to compete, as opposed to just have fun, then a simple mod can put you into a class where you are guaranteed to never win.

Bottom line: unless you have money to blow, try AX and have fun. All performance mods that can be done have already been covered in past posts.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, autox and track days are the best to keep your cost down - you can always compare lap times for bragging rights. You can also get in-car comments and instruction in both settings.

True wheel-to-wheel racing is very expensive.

I'm not sure what's going on up your way, but you're a relatively short drive from Detroit, and that's Motor City, after all - autox's and track days are plentiful. Waterford is a very inexpensive track to run at, as well as close by (in Clarkston), and I still enjoy it after 2 years.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TY TY, that is some of the stuff that i wanted to hear, ty to all who have replied, i have just read 924RACR's webpage front to back, but i think that autoX is what i will prob. do.

ty
Mark
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

924RACR what do you run???(class) i know i saw that title that you run but what does it mean???

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MArk
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924RACR  



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ITA stands for Improved Touring A. It's mainly distinguished as a group of former street cars with certain allowed modifications that are intended to be at a similar level of performance. There's also ITS, ITB, ITC, and ITD. Basically you can play with the suspension a lot, but mods to the motor are limited. It would I think be comparable to Prepared rules for autox'ing (Solo II).

Less-prepared cars, in road racing, would be Showroom Stock (SS - no mods allowed), and Production, which requires a whole lot more.

Also consider that you need a full roll cage for wheel-to-wheel, which will hit you about $2000. It is not required for autoxing or track days, at least not for less-modified cars.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rule for AX is:

if it's stock then from the factory is safe

if it's modified to a Prepared class it is _recommended_ to have a roll cage

- Jon
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TY applebit and 924RACR!!!!

MArk
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