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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found an 81 931 that supposedly runs for $800. The body is perfect, no rust, dents or anything. Interior is fair, engine looks pretty clean and car is complete. I think the car runs but the turbo needs work. Is this a good deal? I don't know much about 924s in general. Thanks,
Rob
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is located anywhere near washington state, then no don't get it, and give me the guys phone number, I will tell him that you aren't getting it.

-Jamez
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so from your reply I'm assuming that you think its a good deal (sorry its actually in South Carolina). The reason I'm skeptical is because I called a reputable Porsche mechanic in the area and he said stay away from 931s because they are SUPER expensive to maintain. He said that an exhaust manifold is something rediculous like $2800. I don't have a lot of money to put into the car so I just wanted to know from people who are knowledgeable on this particular model. Let me know what y'all think. Thanks,
Rob
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i don't own a 931 so i don't know too much about them. but I wouldn't think that they would cost that much to maintain, there are alot of people on this forum that usually are willing to help out with problems and parts.. good luck
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I just found a turbo exhaust manifold on ebay for $50. Thats just a little less than $2800. Then again I read on this board in the tech section that you should expect to spend $5,000 the first year just to keep the damn things running. That may not be good for me. I'm taking a buddy of mine with me to look tomorrow. He won an SCCA national road race championship in a 924 back in the late 70s early 80s so he knows a little about them. Anymore info would be appreciated. Thanks,
Rob
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got to love the car and WANT the car. Because after you spend a bloody fortune on them, they are still worth squat. That's why I'm keeping mine FOREVER.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok All you 931 whiners. Damn Damn Damn, I'm gonna start taking names and kicking ASS.

First of all. I've had my 82 for three years and only replaced the timing belt and the coolant resevoir.

SO it doesn't cost 5K a year to keep it going.

931s are worth more than any 924 included the 87-88 S. What you pay for one is something else. The value is there, you just have to see the car for what it really is.

You can find them cheap and you can find them high. Just buy what you can handle with the skills you got. If you can fix then buy cheap, if you can't keep looking for a car that will keep you from spending a fortune of having someone else bring it back to 100%.

If you ain't a mechanic or rich buy a Honda, coz any Porsche is going to cost you a bundle if you have someone else fix it.

Reputable Porsche Mechanic is like saying reputable Doctor or Lawyer. Sure these guys can do the job, but not at a discount. These guys are out to make money, they don't give a crap about saving you some cash. Good god a new 944 exhaust manifold will be the same price as will a 930. Porsche loves screwing Doctors and Lawyers out of money. When I was in a shop I knew that used parts was the only solution for alot of my clients , they couldn't afford new. I made an effort to know the used parts market. If I didn't you would see alot less 944s on the road.

Who buys new parts anyhow, if it ain't rubber, cork or plastic and consumable you buy it used. You save a hell of alot. It all depends on the item. I would buy a used 40 dollar fuel pump versus a 180.oo dollar fuel pump. It may last six months or six years, its a risk sometimes but your not out alot of money if it doens't work.

Buy the car if it runs well and looks descent, you can't go wrong. Look it over well and be a informerd buyer so read as much as you can on the list on the technical items so you know what to look for and what to expect.

But 800.00 bucks for a clean running type two 931 is a heck of a deal. I would pay that much without a second thought. South Carolina is how far? Distance keeps me from buying 931's, I own all the 931 in NorthEast Oklahoma.



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[ This Message was edited by: Zuffen on 2001-11-20 02:34 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here Here, mines 21 years old and is still on the original manifold. There are tons of spares around for these cars, hell you could buy and sell it for spares and make money from it, but what a waste. A 931 will kick the ass of ANY 924 and even the earlier 944's, they handle better (the term sh*t to a blanket springs to mind) no roll in cornering, if only i could find one that cheap in this country. But as the man said if your at all unsure walk away or get it checked by someone who know what to look for, an if its sound BUY IT!! it will take a week to get the turbo charged grin off your face.

Ant
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't second-guess it for the price... these guys down south don't know what beautiful cars they have... I got mine (82 931) for $700 or so in Atlanta... had to drive down there and haul it back (I live in Detroit)... he was going to scrap it, thought I was going to part it out... I've been driving it on and off for months now, and truly love it! Put in maybe another $500, including stereo equipment

Here's some pics:
http://vaughanscott.com/turbonium.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

get it, they sell them for that much where i live as parts cars that have almost no chance of ever being a going car again. where did you say it was at again? and the phone number was...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind a turbo will cost about 900 if you buy a rebuilt one, if you can find a 931 with a good turbo and needs less for 2500 because your gonna have to put at least 1500 worth of parts and extra mechanic work (if your time is money) but if this is the only one and you know whee to get a turbo go for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the turbo is fine. I went and drove the car today and the turbo spooled up fine. The problem is somewhere in the fuel system i think. I'm not really sure.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, make sure the car doesn't smoke, the turbo can give you real good power even if it's shot. If the car has been sitting long enough it may smoke because it has bad gas, and it also may run poorly if it has bad gas...decisions decisions....it might be the fuel pump relay, the cut off safety turbo switch, a loose wire to the switch, a bad ignition module, a bad ground....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed my mind, I think the guy's trying to rip you off... as a matter of fact, I'm so thorougly pissed off by the fact, I'd like to give him a piece of my mind!!!

Email me his phone number, I'll tell him exactly how awful he is... LOL

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They only made 3000 of the 81 931's worldwide, and most went to Italy. So in my opinion an 81 should be worth more than the other models.
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