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My Porsche has been crunched... what estimate is too high?
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1982Porsche924  



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was in your situation and nobody payed for my damages, some kneecaps would shatter.
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mrgtturbo  



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoothie wrote:

Wow, look at me, I'm ranting.


I don't mind at all. I feel less alone. lol

Hey how do you tell the differance between a bad head gasket and a bad head? I found the coolant needed about a 1/2 gallon, funny thing is the last I checked it.... the last time I drove it and got hit. The coolant was full.

The car is blowing NO smoke. But when I checked the oil it had a little dot of white shit in it and was about a qt low. I'm assuming that's burnt coolant and is mixing. Plus the coolant is a little brownish now.

Think I have to worry about the head or just the gasket?

I do not want to give up on this car.
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mrgtturbo  



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1982Porsche924 wrote:
If I was in your situation and nobody payed for my damages, some kneecaps would shatter.


If it comes to that I plan to make up a little of the money selling tickets to the show.... interested? lol
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mrgtturbo  



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 3:04 pm    Post subject: Pics Reply with quote

Doesn't look as bad as some of you may expect, but it's a big deal to me... the photos are not doing much justice either.
Also keep in mind that it's still pulled in a little behind the wheel from tbe dent.
When this happened I had to pull it out from about 1 inch in "on" the wheel so I could even move it.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/mrgtturbo

oh yeah... there are some "old" pictures of my PGT on there too... ignor them. lol
I'm still a member of probetalk, I need updated pictures of it, aswell as nice pics of my beloved injured Porsche... hope things turn out ok.
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Neil924  



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's your damage? I don't see why they would take that car off the road. It looks very minor. Pull the panel out with a dent fixer {looks like a toilet plunger head} and drive it, there will be a small mark/dent but the car looks ok to drive. Is there damage under the car? Bent wheel? Door won't open? Maybe I'm not seeing all of the damage.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wheel well in pushed in, not much but enough to make it impossable for me to pull out the 1/4 panel any more then I have. The damage doesn't show that good in the pictures, but never the less I got pictures.
If I hit any little crack in the road the tire rubs. There-fore has been deemed unsafe.
My biggest concern in the estimate coming out really high was my fear the repair guys would say the same thing that 90+% of everyone else says when I inquire about parts or anything. The first thing out there mouth following, "year make and model please", is .... "ahhhhh, a Porsche", then I'm told such high figures I may aswell have already walked out when they opened thier mouth to say ahhh.
1 guy inparticular... when I was questioning if my turbo was blowing oil or if the oil return line was ratteled loose or somthing, I asked the guy. How much to put my car up on the lift and give my return line a little twisting on to see if it's tight. He told me he didn't know where it was. I told him he could easily get at it with the car on the lift, it would just be best done with a crows foot but I didn't yet have any. He said to me.... I don't know... depends on how long it takes. I replied, It sholdn't take but minute just to check it's right there in front, what do you want $50-? He says I don't know if that will cover it. So I'm like... what are you telling me, it could be more like a $100- just to check and see if the line is tight? I'm not asking you to fix anything. And the guy says to me.... it's a Porsche, it will be atleast $200- maybe $300-.
SEE YA!!!! This is one experiance, yet not much unlike the bulk of which I've had with the car.
The body work guy I went to however is really good and he doesn't mark up the cost by what the car is unless parts cost more, in this case all that's needed is a little $12- piece of trim, (which I told him I didn't want anyway... I want it all off).
Maybe it also didn't show up so well because the car is so dirty, it was raining for days, and I have to part in a dirt driveway... and I wasn't about to drive the car out wheel rubbing just to wash it.

This whole thing has just been stressful.
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epsylon  



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

man that is nothing compared to the crunch my car received. ever wondered what a toyota 4 runner butt print looks like on a porsche. i am not joking either. you could make a mold of one from my passenger side. i got lucky in that most of the damage was done to the door and minmal to the rear quater panel and rocker. if i replace my door 80% of the damage would be taken care of. the rear quater panel would still have a nasty dent and the rocker would be warped looking but there was no damage to the wheel well, glass, or frame. it is still a lot $$$ in body and paint work though. the rear quater panel is a big peice of metal compared to the front fender. i would have prefered to have been hit there. oh well maybe next time LOL.
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Alex Roy  



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is what I would recommend:

1. jack up the rear end, take off both rear wheels measure the wheel width on the good side, then compare that to the other side

2. get a small sledge hammer and whack away until the bad side has the same clearance (or close to) as the good side

3. collect the insurance that you can and use it for what ever, and drive the car as is.

I had a car that got totaled, I asked if I could keep the car, they said I could, but that if any kind of accident like this happened in the future with this car they would not pay for damages to the vehicle again (this was when an uninsured driver totaled my Toyota corolla). I decided to let them total the car and get the full amount, instead of a reduced amount and keep the car.....it was a funny situation though, I only had the car for 2 weeks, I bought the car for $300, replaced the head gasket, and they offered me $1400 for the buy-back.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar situation with my truck. A guy backed into it in a parking lot while my brother-in-law was driving. The guy gave him bogus insurance info. I contacted the state police, and they went and scared the hell out of the guy. He came up with the money.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 5:15 pm    Post subject: Things started looking up a bit today. Reply with quote

The Blazer the kid who hit me was driving, was insured.
I don't know how the cop could have possibly screwed up the policy number as bad as he did, but either he did screw up, or... the kid tried to pass off a frudulent insurance card at first, but when the cop went after the kid he all the sudden came up with the right card.
Here's the example.
This is how the set of numbers the cop had looked.
xxx-xx-xx-xxA
what the correct number set looked like...
xxx-xx-xxxxxxxx
I just don't see how the cop could have made an error that big.
I think a fast one was atempted.... and failed.

Anyway.... the insurance company the kid has called me, set me up with a rent-a-car and told me to expect a call within 2 days for an appraser to come see the car, and my repairs will be taken care of.

We'll see.

As for the possibly blown head gasket issue.... that turned out weird too. That doesn't seem to be the case. However I am pretty sure the radiator needs a flushing. The brown in the coolant when adding water must have been boiled off mildew, dirt, whatever from inside the radiator. After the car was restarted it mixed to a nice green, and showed no sign of mixing of the oil and coolant. As for the little speck on the oil stick.... may have just been something on it. When redipped it pulled up clean and everything seemed to be right. I don't get it... but... I'll go with it.

However it does feel like something is holding the car back when acelarating, (moved the car to my storage unit), Maybe the tire is rubbing more then I thought. Is it possable for the tranny to be weird after the tire and body were hit? I mean is it possible without leaking fluid? It would seem to me that if the tire was pushed on hard enough to hurt the tranny it should be leaking fluid, if this is correct I probably should not worry about it... after all it could all very well be the tire is rubbing constantly under acelaration, (can't see too well from in the car... infact... can't see at all). I just don't want any last minute surprizes that the insurance people will say... sorry about your luck... it's final.

Anyway.... there's the update.

One more thing, (off the topic), I was offered an 84' 944 for $1000- OBO, the guy seems to be willing to sell it for less. He replaced the timing belt, water pump, blah, blah, blah and it's still heating up. He said the car looks great, and runs quite good, he just does not dare drive it very far in fear of harming the head because the head gasket is apparently blown and the oil and coolant have started to mix. He says it's not bad yet, but it needs to be delt with before the problem worsens. He told me he did all this about a year ago and lost interest in dealing with the problem, so the car has sat untouched and he doesn't think he'll ever get back to it. So if I want it, I should come take a look at it and make him an offer. Is it worth my time to take the drive, (not too far), but does it sound like a bad situation?
I should have the money to do this in the next couple weeks if he gave me a decent price, may even have enough for a replacement head if needed, (from Ebay).
BTW.... this money I'm talking about is not the insurance money... that's going into my car, I want my car right.

***(it's funny how when you're at the point of giving up, things often pull a 180, then when things seem to be going good, it's once again time to spin your wheel of faite.)***

Aaron
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Neil924  



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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See Aaron, not so bad my last post said you would have been just fine. Relax and think about each problem as it comes, don't clump them all together. It is much easier to cope that way. Thumbs up on the car!
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing you have about $1800 to $2200 of damage. Anyone else want to take a guess?
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$1800-$2200 American? Uh, no. Beat the dent out, touch up any paint scratch and if the frame and alignment are true then get back into the road race people call driving. "Good days ahead" I predict.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

State your guess in US dollars, I'll stick to my $1800 to $2200.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad things are working out OK.
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