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Stu2j  



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
Very easy job, 2 bolts to drop the bumper, 2 bolts on each shock, a 1 beer job....


How many beers if there is a trailer hitch involved? My 924 has a trailer hitch (installed by original owner and has been there for 20 years) and I am going to try and remove it. I never tow anything and it prevents me from moving the license plate and adding the lens upgrade kit.

The hitch hardware looks pretty rusted and I'm betting it won't be an easy thing to get off.

Anybody need a tow hitch for a 924?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try taking to the local U-haul and pay to have them remove it. They've got all the impact tools needed to do it quickly. You're right, the rust will complicate it a little. Might want to put on some penetrant before you try it. They can also check to see if the PO had some trailer lighting wired in that needs to be removed.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D Hook wrote:
They can also check to see if the PO had some trailer lighting wired in that needs to be removed.


Oh yeah, it's wired. The good news here is that the wiring was nicely done and the loom stores easily in the spare tire compartment. I have always been hesitant to remove it under the "if it ain't broke" thing.

The worst part was that they disconnected the rear speakers and spliced in new speaker wire that ran to the back hatch. Apparently, they wanted to use the car to run external speakers. Why they didn't simply wire two additional speakers is beyond me. Re-wiring the speakers was a real hassle.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a small 5x7 garden trailer can be a handy thing to have . I know a guy who drives around on trash night and picks up broken refrigerators , washing machines , and whatever scrap metal he can find .I think the scrap yard pays him $50.oo a ton ,and he averages like $150. a month . something to think about.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man! I want to find that scrap yard! Around here the best we do for scrap steel is about $2.75/ton. Aluminum is quite a bit more.

Something about being seen pulling a trailer...loaded with old appliances... with a Porshce...brings the "Sanford and Son" theme song to mind.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you might need to chech that price again, at $3.oo a ton, you could'nt pay for the gas to tow it there , hence scrap yards would close up shop. $50.oo a ton is about what they pay for cars , I assumed the price for other scrap would be similar. here a price list for differnet types of scrap dated 1 /2002

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m3MKT/19_110/82482673/p1/article.jhtml?term=scrap+iron+price
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doggone it WDB, now I'm going to have to go dig up that receipt again to check, just to satisfy my curiosity. I'm pretty sure that was the price we got and you're right, using our F250 Ford w/it's 460 4bbl, we DIDN'T make enough to pay for the gas! But this was scrap steel like tubing, pipes, etc, not autos or appliances. Plus our location (central states) makes shipping costs higher, lowering their ability to pay for the scrap (?) I know we made several trips and ended up hauling about 15 or so tons and didn't make much over $35. Really p****e me off.

Around here, we almost have to pay to have someone take appliances. Only one place I know of who will let you drop them off and they dispose of them for you.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the trouble with bringing big loads is that if you have several grades of scrap on the truck , they pay you the lowest price for the whole load. meaning if you have aluminum and pot metal , whatever the load wieghts you get the pot metal price . and alot of places dont tell you that you get a better price if all the pieces are 2.5 feet and smaller . 10 ft long pipes wont fit in the furnace and have to be cut down, adding to the processing cost. but your right about location, if your close to a port the prices are higher , most scrap goes straight to asia ( japan , korea , etc. )
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a lot of work for $150/month. The pay scale must be really low in your neck of the woods. One could probably save $150/month fixing one's own 924/931. Fix 10/week x $150........hmm.
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PS That'd be an interesting poll. Average earnings. What sector? What area. What job type. All private, of course.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu2j wrote:
Paul wrote:
Very easy job, 2 bolts to drop the bumper, 2 bolts on each shock, a 1 beer job....


How many beers if there is a trailer hitch involved? My 924 has a trailer hitch (installed by original owner and has been there for 20 years) and I am going to try and remove it. I never tow anything and it prevents me from moving the license plate and adding the lens upgrade kit.

The hitch hardware looks pretty rusted and I'm betting it won't be an easy thing to get off.

Anybody need a tow hitch for a 924?


That might require 3 beers. BTW what year and color is your car. I had a 77 from 77 to 78 that was signal green that I put a hitch on to tow a fishing boat.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

""BTW what year and color is your car.""

See my signature. Follow the link and you can view the cars. The tow hitch is on the 924. I have no idea what they were pulling.

(ok, in case you don't want to follow the link it is a Champagne 82 924)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many beers if there is a trailer hitch involved? My 924 has a trailer hitch (installed by original owner and has been there for 20 years) and I am going to try and remove it. I never tow anything and it prevents me from moving the license plate and adding the lens upgrade kit.
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I think you would like the taillight upgrade kit. It adds a little to the car.
And by the way, those coxial cables (thats what I assume they were) were run for a speaker box in the cargo area. ( just an assumption.)

Where does that trailer hitch attach to underneath? Is it bolted to the underneath of the body somewhere? I can`t see a 924 being able to tow much of a load.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WDB: Naw, we always seperated the different materials. We only had aluminum and mild steel, nothing else. You're right, the first time we took a load in they informed us that if the materials weren't seperated we'd get the lowest price. I'm sure our location has a lot to do with the pricing. But mainly we needed to get the stuff out of our way.

DWAK, that WOULD be interesting.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

""Where does that trailer hitch attach to underneath? Is it bolted to the underneath of the body somewhere? I can`t see a 924 being able to tow much of a load.""

I have always assumed they were towing a small boat. Like you, I can't imagine anything bigger.

Here's some photos of the hitch (looking from underneath the car). In this first one, you can see the hitch is bolted directly to the bumper then extends backward to the frame (note how old this thing is).



In this second photo, you are looking at the point where the bumper shock meets the frame. The hitch has a hole in it the exact size of the shock and is bolted to the frame in three places.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction, that's a 2 beer job. I had the same hitch, I believe it was rated as a Class 1 Hitch.

With an impact wrench I could remove the bumper and hitch in 10 minutes.
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