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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuse my ignorance but assuming the coilover is adjustable does the torsion bar need to be reset in order tolower the rear and therefore preloading the coil? Or does one just install and start lowering away?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to raise the back end by 5mm and obtain a more rigid behaviour of the suspension system.
However i think you can lower the car by a small amount even without reindexing.....not sure how healthy that is tho..
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leadfoot wrote:
Excuse my ignorance but assuming the coilover is adjustable does the torsion bar need to be reset in order tolower the rear and therefore preloading the coil? Or does one just install and start lowering away?
Stu


They install adjustable coil-overs in a 944 Turbo in Series 6, episodes 3 & 4 of Wheeler Dealers, if you want a general overview of how it's done...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..just find out wich way to turn the t-bars ...to the front
or 2 the rear to lower it not raise.. oh and how many notches would do.
After a look it seems those beetle coilovers are
not available in the states. paragon front kit gets the go.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leadfoot wrote:
Excuse my ignorance but assuming the coilover is adjustable does the torsion bar need to be reset in order tolower the rear and therefore preloading the coil? Or does one just install and start lowering away?
Stu


Yes, initial lowering has to be done via torsion bar adjustment, then depends on the system/kit you choose.

1. Full coilover rear end + dispose of the torsion bars = All height adjustment and spring rates can be done by the shock/spring option

2. 'Semi' coilover + keep torsion bars = all height adjustment is still done by torsion bar. Coilover has helper spring to stiffen things up and avoid bottoming out (this is what I have)

However in system 2 if I have already lowered using torsion bar and install a taller spring I can raise the car. Defeats the option of retaining the torsion bars though and then carrying extra weight for no gain.

Pro's and con's of loosing the torsion bars. Most UK racers of 924/944/968's still retain torsion bars and then use helper springs on the coil over.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a few points but if you lose the torsion bars and go with full coilover rear, don't you need to strengthen the rear mounts?

Also, I believe Morghen is correct - you can lower the rear a small amount without reindexing the torsion bars. I think it's around 20mm from memory but I'm not 100% sure.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WEASEL149 wrote:
Just a few points but if you lose the torsion bars and go with full coilover rear, don't you need to strengthen the rear mounts?


Can of worms! Some people swear this is not a problem, but I would not go this route without reinforment. . .ideally integrated into a cage.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
WEASEL149 wrote:
Just a few points but if you lose the torsion bars and go with full coilover rear, don't you need to strengthen the rear mounts?


Can of worms! Some people swear this is not a problem, but I would not go this route without reinforment. . .ideally integrated into a cage.


I had to with mine, as the original mounts started cracking. May not be a problem with lower spring rates for street use.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

got the front conversion kit. looks nice. i'm going to post pics in the next weeks with the result.
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