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[ideola]

Re: clutch, remember that the 931 has hydraulic clutch so I imagine the comparison would be pretty similar there...at least that's been my experience between the 924S and the 931.

I have to agree with the comments about the 944 feeling "heavier" and not as nimble as the 924. The 941, while not the same power plant, has similar output to the 2.5L motor and with the 944 factory steel is much heavier. While it still corners great, the 924S and the 924NA just feel so much more nimble and light on their feet. Chrenan's dance partner analogy is spot on.

As for what he needs next, though, I would suggest a 928S4

Either that and just get one of each...931, 924S, 944 NA, 968...
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[Chrenan]

Hmmmm, 928 S4 could be tempting...

I always wanted a black/black 951. The fact that mine was ROW (no ugly side markers, better rear bumper), no aribags and sport seats and for sale locally made it a must buy.

Next on the list is a 968 Club Sport. I have no doubt this will be much harder to find, and won't show up for sale locally.
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1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan

[p-talk]

Wow, such a good writeup. My experience has been limited to a 924S and a 924 (2.0), so I can't say how much different a 944/951 drives. But I loved driving both 924s, they both had tons of personality and were nice and nimble.

Question: how light is your 924 now? Decreased weight does make a huge difference in handling and control.
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1984 Porsche 944
1990 Audi 200 TQA
1990 Audi 90S

[Slam]

I had my suspicions about wear making the 924 clutch heavy. Everything else about the car is light, making the clutch feel out of character for the car.

As much as working on the fuses upside-down like a pretzel is great for character development, I'd say the relocate is good as long as the drains are clean. The moving of the DME to right under the battery box, though? Hmm.
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'84 944 - kid blew motor
'83 944 - resting comfortably. For 12 years
'87 944 - sideswiped by trucker
'80 924 - gone
'78 924 - gone
'77 924 - rusting comfortably

[Chrenan]

Not sure on the exact weight, that is a good question that needs to be answered. I think next summer I will hit the weigh scales at the city dump to finally answer that question.

I can say this, I've had both the 924 and 951 on wheel dollies to move them into their winter storage positions in the garage. The 924 feels about 500 lbs lighter to move around. Seriously.

[Rasta Monsta]

[Chrenan]

Really? If it involves a nut welded to the back side of the flange on the turbo I've already got that update on my car. The update I need is more space or smaller hands...
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1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan

[morghen]

yea...i remember the little NA....it felt light..agile...happy...and it was easyer to drive...while the CGT like car feels heavy,fast and sometimes scary and its not forgiving....its ready to bite your head off. I've just driven a late model 944 and compared to my CGT like car it feels a bit more modern but only because of power steering, everything else looks and feels the same to me...no ideea about the 951...

great article Chrenan !
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[Patrick]

Like brockoli i also like my 924 even more now! As far as power goes this is the most powerful car 1ve ever owned, and being that it runs on a single weber 40 sidedraft, well.. In as much as i dream about driving a 931 or a 951, i`m always glad to hear about people preferring or at least equally enjoying a lower hp 924 NA (which is why i`m looking forward to driving my kid brother`s Datsun 240Z twice a month to church).
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1979 924 U.S. version
Single sidedraft Weber 40

[tuurbo]

Nice article Chrenan. The 924 NA and turbo have a very different feel from the 944 turbo.

And speaking of the Datsun 240Z, they kind of feel like one of those - a little rougher around the edges than their later cousins but still a lot of fun.
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1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock.

[CorsePerVita]

this was a really cool write-up and was nice to read. makes me even happier to own a 924
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- 1977 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (Trackday Project)
- 1979 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (The other daily)
- 1980 Porsche 931 (Daily)
- 1987 Lamborghini Jalpa
- 1999 Ducati 900SS

[edh]

I owned two 924S's ('86 and '88 ) before I got my '90 944 Turbo

I have to agree with most of the comments (I am on the 924 board after all )

The 924 is an easier car to drive, still very direct and mechanical, but lighter & more delicate (the 951 is a bit of a thug). I also prefer the looks of the 924 body.

I've never worked on a 2.0 24, so have always dealt with the joys of the inverted oil filter Apart from dealing with a bit more pipework, I didn't think there was very much to choose between the two. Although even simple jobs like swapping out the oil pressure sender on the 951 can be a pain. Like any turbo car, the cost of running is higher than an n/a. That also increases with track use

But, if I only had to own one car, the 951 wins every time. It's an effortless long distance machine with massive torque just when you need it (at 80-100 mph). It's also a fine track car (mine is on Leda dampers). For a more dedicated track machine, all you need to do is make it lighter - losing 300lbs should be about right. Next year I'm planning to do just that, and to make it a much more track oriented machine. - 320/330 hp + 1200Kgs should be fast enough for me

I loved the driving experience of the 924, and a 968 powered one would be fantastic - If I ever find one at reasonable money I'll be straight in there That would be close to my ultimate track car.

Having thought this through again - my ultimate track car has to be whatever BassGT builds next - Can't wait to see that, as I thought the orange car was near perfect!
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current - '90 944S2, '00 986S,
ex - '90 944 turbo '86 924S, '88 924S

[Chrenan]

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[Adismo]