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ideola
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FWIW, judging color based on uncalibrated photos made with uncalibrated equipment viewed on uncalibrated monitors in uncontrolled viewing conditions is a completely useless exercise.
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edredas
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the paint code!
Here is L93Z as a Porsche color in the DuPont book.
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dick-dastardly
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: | | FWIW, judging color based on uncalibrated photos made with uncalibrated equipment viewed on uncalibrated monitors in uncontrolled viewing conditions is a completely useless exercise. |
 Just posted for people that may be interested,its a debate not a court of law,I paint porsches everyday and I can asure you that I would not paint my martini the wrong colour.Due to the fact that pigment and paint is fresh you will never match 100% regardless whether its police white or Grand prix white,I am very happy with the match I have and confident its the correct colour 
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dick-dastardly
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:16 am Post subject: |
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So titan white is the correct porsche colour,looks to bright and white(if that makes any sense)grand pix white is slightly darker and has more cream in it
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dick-dastardly
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Just as a matter of interest R5R5 polar white was the standard white used on the 924 for the years 76 and 77
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Timmay!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:41 am Post subject: |
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EDRED,
Please go back and read the thread. The name "Titan white" was thrown out. It's bad info.
Dick,
Sorry bud. You still don't have a leg to stand on.
I've seen paint code decals in the U.S., Australia, and the UK, and they all say Police White. None say GP white.....not a one.
The only thing I'm waiting for is that missing text on the factory document that was cut off in the copying process !!
Can someone in Germany go to the factory, grab Marc Noack, and get hands on that piece of paper? 
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scm924s
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Richard is a difficult mann to convince TIm, especially as he has a Martini newly painted GPW!
I do like the reference edredas found in the PET for the use of L93Z, another clear pointer, in my view, unfortunately I can never find it, found the reference to the Martini stripe.
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edredas
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| Timmay! wrote: | EDRED,
Please go back and read the thread. The name "Titan white" was thrown out. It's bad info. |
Tim, I never said the name of the color was "Titan White". The purpose of that post was to show that L93Z was used by Porsche.
Glasurit calls the color "White", as does the PET.
PET:
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/usa/924_USA_76_79_KATALOG.pdf
Pg. 218
"Decorative Film stripe [for] Special Model: White"
"White" is listed as L93Z on page 10.
Compare that to the Sebring edition in the next column, "Special Model: Guards Red".
The Sebring is called "Guards Red", not just Red. This means the Martini color is "White"... which works out since there's a paint code to match.
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agfisher
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| edredas wrote: | | Timmay! wrote: | EDRED,
Please go back and read the thread. The name "Titan white" was thrown out. It's bad info. |
Tim, I never said the name of the color was "Titan White". The purpose of that post was to show that L93Z was used by Porsche.
Glasurit calls the color "White", as does the PET.
PET:
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/usa/924_USA_76_79_KATALOG.pdf
Pg. 218
"Decorative Film stripe [for] Special Model: White"
"White" is listed as L93Z on page 10.
Compare that to the Sebring edition in the next column, "Special Model: Guards Red".
The Sebring is called "Guards Red", not just Red. This means the Martini color is "White"... which works out since there's a paint code to match. |
That Sir, is the best conclusion yet!
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Nobbi
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Wau,ich wusste nicht das man ueber ein wenig Farbe soviel palaver machen kann.....
Titandioxid ist ein Grundstoff mit dem man Weisse Farbe oder auch Zahncreme herstellen kann.
Meiner meinung nach hatte niemand bei Porsche und wird nie jemand interesse and der Aufklaerung dieser Frage haben.
Vielleicht sollte man sich an Volkswagen in Wolfsburg wenden, moeglicherweise haben die interesse an der Historie ihrer neu erworbenen Produkte.
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Nobbi
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agfisher
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Nobbi wrote: | | Meiner meinung nach hatte niemand bei Porsche und wird nie jemand interesse and der Aufklaerung dieser Frage haben. |
I thought Porsche paid people to be historians? What else do they have to do but answer our questions!!!
| Nobbi wrote: | | Vielleicht sollte man sich an Volkswagen in Wolfsburg wenden, moeglicherweise haben die interesse an der Historie ihrer neu erworbenen Produkte. |
That is also a good idea. There should be a Volkswagen historian we could contact.
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Timmay!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ja- stimt!
Vieleicht ein AUDI mann auch!
Maybe someone at PORSCHE should be more interested in clearing up this question! Aber ich kann das nicht glauben..........
Somebody who worked at the factories has to know.......
Von Neckarsulm oder Weisach.
Nobbi,
Get your butt over to The Porsche factory and research this question for us. Find us some DEFINITIVE results and I'll put you up in my house in San Diego for a short vacation! Frei Amerikanisher beer!
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jim kleyh
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:45 am Post subject: white?? |
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timmay! kenodog is going to tour the factory and museum on his trip for his company coming up shortly Have a look at his thread and make suggestions. Maybe he can check this out as it really seems to bring out the other sides' of members, just a thought looking in from the outside.
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dick-dastardly
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Yes I have a freshly painted martini in GPW,and very nice it looks too,really would not worry if I had the only proper white martini,the adding of a police white colour code sticker would sort it,and nobody would ever be able to tell the difference  unless they owned a vw van or classic German police car.Seems porsche cut corners and tried to bring the price down with much cheaper paint,van sales were down at the time
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Timmay!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dreee-ee-ee-ee-eem, dream, dream, dree-em...Dreee -ee-ee- ee-eem....... 
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