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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject: IM Pretty sure this is a performance upgrade Reply with quote

absolutely the coolest swap ever!

http://www.eurotuner.com/featuredvehicles/eurp_1004_1985_porsche_944/index.html



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great styling and paint--class
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just listen to it..

http://www.maxxtuning.se/index.php?id=61&car=09-0016
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

944 in black with deep dish rims will always look the bollocks...700+ power levels though? Thats just silly and unuseable. Not a real car at all, girls won't appreciate the spec and little boys just dirty the bedsheets over this kind of stuff...

Still, I'd like one too lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ic932 wrote:
700+ power levels though? Thats just silly and unuseable.


I hate when people make statements like this, you can never have too much power. There's never too much engine for a car!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_mad_electrician wrote:
ic932 wrote:
700+ power levels though? Thats just silly and unuseable.


I hate when people make statements like this, you can never have too much power. There's never too much engine for a car!


Hate all you want..
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn straight - 700 isn't enough, for such a heavy car.

Think it's too much? Try a fresh good set of rubber.

As Mark Donohue once said: "Unless you can lay black streaks from corner to corner, you don't have enough power."
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

924RACR wrote:
Damn straight - 700 isn't enough, for such a heavy car.

Lol, you're getting excited about your firefly..

Think it's too much? Try a fresh good set of rubber.

Good R compounds and half that claimed power is still cool in the real world.

As Mark Donohue once said: "Unless you can lay black streaks from corner to corner, you don't have enough power."


Is he the white haired talking head?

No, in all seriousness, off the Dyno this monster will be stuck at the starting line with either a spat out box or just an idiot stall on the bench-press clutch. Ridiculous build IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ic932 wrote:
Ridiculous build IMO.


I agree.

On a two wheels drive car...there is no way he can make consistent off the line starts....nor drive it anywhere max power.
As a matter of fact i have seen in closeup lots of cars tuned to over 600HP and all of them need fat and wide slicks and all sorts of computer help to make fairly consistent starts.

Really...this power cannot be used. Try driving a viper or a V12 Ferrari without computer help...its impossible...

I've been close up to a BMW M5 turbo fitted into an older 3 series....he gets wheel spin in 3rd and 4th, at @100mph, ON SLICKS !!!
his car makes ~600hp

i'm surprised you guys have so much faith in your driving.
i've been damn scared by my 200+ hp 924 when i first got wheel spin in 3rd going on a straight line.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Really...this power cannot be used. Try driving a viper or a V12 Ferrari without computer help...its impossible...


BTDT. It's not impossible, by any means - it's just a big step up from a Toofah. Got to beat on a Viper ACR this summer - quite tractable and easy to drive. And of course there's the Vettes I get to beat on daily; it's not really that hard to control putting down 638hp, and you know you're getting there when the base car with "only" 435hp feels slow. Gets a little more challenging in the corners, but yes, that truly is what traction control's for, if you don't want to DIY.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, please remember that these cars are to be driven as daily drivers as Porsche intended. I drive all year around including this freak snow&frost. I'm running stock non turbo'ed 200 and its perfect... 700+ in a straight line with sticky tyres? Like I said, sticky sheets - yuk!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

924RACR wrote:
morghen wrote:

Really...this power cannot be used. Try driving a viper or a V12 Ferrari without computer help...its impossible...


BTDT. It's not impossible, by any means - it's just a big step up from a Toofah. Got to beat on a Viper ACR this summer - quite tractable and easy to drive. And of course there's the Vettes I get to beat on daily; it's not really that hard to control putting down 638hp, and you know you're getting there when the base car with "only" 435hp feels slow. Gets a little more challenging in the corners, but yes, that truly is what traction control's for, if you don't want to DIY.


Totally irrellevant. Yank muscle crap Vaughn. Its never going to be at the cutting edge of anything. Lets keep it on topic please. I've heard your Bosch credentials before and its all irrelevant...you want to make a brick handle like a sports car to justify silly dispalcement motors that no one with real money wants. Why not take from work and apply to our cars and be useful? Good luck.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ic932 wrote:
924RACR wrote:
morghen wrote:

Really...this power cannot be used. Try driving a viper or a V12 Ferrari without computer help...its impossible...


BTDT. It's not impossible, by any means - it's just a big step up from a Toofah. Got to beat on a Viper ACR this summer - quite tractable and easy to drive. And of course there's the Vettes I get to beat on daily; it's not really that hard to control putting down 638hp, and you know you're getting there when the base car with "only" 435hp feels slow. Gets a little more challenging in the corners, but yes, that truly is what traction control's for, if you don't want to DIY.


Totally irrellevant. Yank muscle crap Vaughn. Its never going to be at the cutting edge of anything. Lets keep it on topic please. I've heard your Bosch credentials before and its all irrelevant...you want to make a brick handle like a sports car to justify silly dispalcement motors that no one with real money wants. Why not take from work and apply to our cars and be useful? Good luck.



Wasn't you whole point, ic932, that its impossible to drive a high horsepower car without electronic stability and traction control? Does it matter if it is a 600 hp corvette or ferrari is irrelevant. Unless your point was that these italian/european supercars with alot of horsepower are not engineered to perform as well without DSTC as a new corvette.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it sure sounds nice anyway.

IDK. Think I`ll take the middle ground here.

Depending on the suspension & whatever it may be fast on the track. Like what they have in the USA where they just drive around in circles. May even do a later viper over the straight quarter too.

May even be OK on your local track 924RACR, IDK can you get around everywhere between 5 and 7,5K?

We all know though that it will be an absolute pig on the street. Would not last long in most police precincts either IMO. Less power than a NA toofah below 4K hardly makes for a quiet take off and I would be interested in how fast as well. An extra 400 HP or so at 7K is just what every hoon needs for traction.

Would like to see the 0-60 time. And a lap around the Top Gear track by the Stig, or some other benchmark as a comparison.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

924RACR wrote:


Got to beat on a Viper ACR this summer - quite tractable and easy to drive.


You forgot to mention that Vipers have NO electronic aids what-so-ever. Remember that car held the production car record at Nurburgring for a little over a year so it seems that someone can drive a car with this kind of power.
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