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bear924  



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello ideola,

I've been eagerly awaiting updates on your installation, any additional news yet?

Thanks
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ideola  



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bear924 wrote:
Hello ideola,

I've been eagerly awaiting updates on your installation, any additional news yet?

Thanks


I've purchased all of the connectors and such...will be actually quite simple to make the turbo outlet to IC inlet connection...two 135 degree silicone couplers, and a 90 degree short radius cast aluminum connector...four t-bolt clamps, and done.

However, I've been traveling extensively for work and have had no opportunity to complete the install...probably early June at this rate.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is one take on the pump/heat exchanger:






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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Rasta,

Your photos highlighted the need for a filling cap, thanks.

Do you happen to know your pump flow rate and/or heat exchanger cooling capacity?

I appreciate your input, I look forward to hearing about your finished product.

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Wayne
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you had this mounted and running yet Dan?

Do I need anything else other than the cooler, install kit and bracket to mount it up?

Also what's the shipping charge to the UK?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, the Club Sport motor has to come out due to an oil pressure issue. I completed installation of the air circuit, but never completed the water circuit, and have not run the motor yet with the IC.

Not sure if you've seen it or not, but I finally got around to documenting the complete kit required for installation, which is now available on my site. You shouldn't need much if anything other than the stuff listed in the kit:
  • (4) 2.25" T-bolt clamps
  • (2) 2.25" silicone 45° elbows (black)
  • 3/4" Remote inline filler cap
  • Bosch intercooler pump and harness
  • (4) brass 1/2" NPT Male to 3/4" barbed 90° elbows for intercooler or heat exchanger
  • (2) brass 1/2" NPT Male to 3/4" barbed straights for intercooler or heat exchanger
  • 10 feet of 3/4" flexible fluid lines
  • (6) 3/4" worm gear clamps
  • 10-row radiator (11.5" x 5.75" x 2")
  • 2.25" cast aluminum tight radius 90° elbow
The Bosch pump will draw between 2.5-3.5A and is rated at 317GPH. I have a PDF with the Bosch cut sheet somewhere, but this is the pump that was recommended to me by Bell.

Note that the kit includes a remote inline filler with cap, eliminating the need to put one directly on the IC or the radiator. This approach allows the filler to be placed anywhere the end user chooses directly in line with the 3/4" flex hose.

The "basic" kit includes the smallest radiator, which will fit neatly under the horns (in the opposite location as the OEM 931 oil cooler), taking advantage of the vented nose valance. I KNOW FULL WELL that this radiator is not very big. I have a full range of radiators available, which can also be enhanced with fans and a remote reservoir. These measures will allow each customer to "tune" the heat sink capacity of their installation based on how they plan to run the car.

For starters, on my personal installation, I am only concerned about street driving on the Club Sport (i.e. short boost runs) where heat soak should not be an issue. When I get serious about track events, I'll increase the rad size first, and then look at other enhancements like a fan and remote reservoir as circumstance dictate. If you're considering one of these, we should discuss the rad so we can size it appropriately for your intended use.

As for shipping to the UK, I'll weigh all the components tomorrow so I can give you an idea on what it will cost.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dan
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I start disassembling things to pull the motor, I snapped some pix of the intercooler with the air circuit plumbed in. This is using the kit listed on my site (and above). The silicone couplers are available in black, red, and blue. My supplier only had red in stock when I ordered...I wanted black, but was too impatient to wait. These pix show the two 45° silicone couplers and the 90° tight radius cast alu elbow. So the connection is turbo outlet to 45° silicone elbow to 90° cast elbow to 45° silicone to IC inlet. All components are 2.25" I.D. Pretty straight forward. When I take the IC out, I'll leave the silicone / cast elbow assembly together and snap another pic or two so you can see better how to orient the couplers.




Here is a pic of the Bosch pump:


And here is a link to the product spec sheet:
http://garage.ideola.com/downloads/BOSCH-0392022002.pdf

I was also able to find a better price on the pump, which allowed me to reduce the basic install kit from $370 down to $350. I've posted these new pix, links, info, and pricing on my website.
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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good kit Dan. When can we expect to see some dyno printouts of adding this kit to a RoW car? What's the estimate? It's a lot of money without tangible results. However a good buy with performance comparable to CGT or GTS
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrera RSR wrote:
Looks like a good kit Dan. When can we expect to see some dyno printouts of adding this kit to a RoW car? What's the estimate? It's a lot of money without tangible results. However a good buy with performance comparable to CGT or GTS

Hopefully later this spring. I am on a mad rush to get this car and the DProd tribute car finished in time for Porsche Parade 2013, which is in Traverse City MI. My goal is to get four cars up there. Last weekend, I got everything disconnected so I can now pull the motor. Hoping to do so this weekend so I can identify what is causing the low oil pressure readings.

Here is a pic of the remote filler cap that I include in the kit:


I also was able to weigh the intercooler. With no fittings, the TMCC itself weighs a little less than 8.5 pounds. Unfortunately, it is just slightly too big to fit in a flat rate package, so shipping internationally will cost around $95.

Sombody else was asking about the dimensions of the core. The core itself is 6" across (i.e. from left to right when installed); 8.5" long (i.e. from front to back); and 2.5" tall (i.e. from top to bottom). This is the CORE only, not the finished unit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally installed my chargecooler, it's ace.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh o... Now tou have to polish all the other aluminium... Looks sweet
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good! What are you doing for heat exchanger?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete, thanks for sharing the install pix. I realized that I still haven't taken pix of the completed installation on the Club Sport. I'm going back to MI this weekend, if I remember, I'll try to snap some pix while there. It looks like you took an essentially identical approach to the water lines as mine.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are these intercoolers still available? I’m interested in one.
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