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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2534 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:33 am Post subject: |
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So the CGT also has an extra board? I posted pics earlier here where my swedish model DITC has an extra board where my enlish version do not. I wonder what that extra board do? _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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michal928
Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 41 Location: Warsaw
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:03 am Post subject: |
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The CGT DITC does not have an additional circuit board. |
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leadfoot

Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 2222 Location: gOLD cOAST Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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probably to compensate for fuel differences seeing as boost curves would be the same...
what was the fuel like in sweeden in the 80's??
stu _________________ 1981 ROW 924 Turbo -
carbon fiber GT mish mash
LS1 conversion in progress... |
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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2534 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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leadfoot wrote: | probably to compensate for fuel differences seeing as boost curves would be the same...
what was the fuel like in sweeden in the 80's??
stu |
I think we had 95-96 and 98 octane at that time, up to 88 when catalysts were a legal demand all fuel had lead enrichment. After that only 98 were had led until the 90s.
I dont know if we had some other emission demands at that time, must check this a bit more. _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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McGyver

Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 354 Location: Jelenia Gora - Poland
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Ok... back in the game I found a little free time last days and I started to make 937 DITC complete schematic. Unfortunately it took at least five hours to make just 12 from 16 (if i remember good) IC's... they not in any "parts list" for software I use so ... the only way is to create them from beginning but it's quite easy to check in data sheets what's inside.
Next part for some next days will be to connect everything together
I had to make it on A0 sheet and I hope that will be enough.
One interesting thing.. which I found some time ago:
931 DITC - US version has connected line to output 7 - which is retard of ignition - connected to that jumper under the hood (PIN 3 in ignition module - (-B) If I check good)
In 931 ROW (Germany) version output 7 is cut... so jumper can't actually work.
I try to put some pdf with schematic soon, maybe that will help in some next research  _________________ 931 82' - 5000km after full engine rebuild
SOLD: 924 81' N/A- with turbo gearbox "dogleg" - great but mysterious car
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 8787 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:42 am Post subject: |
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hmm..thats why i never really found any difference between wire on and wire off....i was worried my car has an electrical/electronic problem.
phew !! _________________ https://www.the924.com |
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McGyver

Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 354 Location: Jelenia Gora - Poland
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:22 am Post subject: |
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That's strange they add this function... even in 924 Tutbo Service Information bulletin or something like that they wrote about 7 degree retard when you disconnect that wire. If that is how this work... on ROW we got this retard enabled all the time, and only in US version you can turn it off or it's driven (on/off) by DITC itself.
But this means... in RoW units we got more advance... so they add that 7 degrees all the time to compensate that. But in US unit that should work in little different way then. I wonder how this will work with that jumper on/off... that has to be some changes which we can feel.
Can somebody tell me what is that book?
Any one can send me a e-copy of it??  _________________ 931 82' - 5000km after full engine rebuild
SOLD: 924 81' N/A- with turbo gearbox "dogleg" - great but mysterious car
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gegge

Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 1124 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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That is the PORSCHE 924 turbo Service Information MODEL 81.
I got it, but am a bit reluctant to scan and send it to you since you still owe me money for the GTS/GTR catalogue.
EDIT: Sorry, it was Michal Walczak _________________ Carl Fredrik Torkildsen
924 turbo -81 Carrera GT RESTOMOD
924 turbo -80 Dolomite De Luxe
924 -85 DP kit, BBS RS, M030 and tuned engine
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McGyver

Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 354 Location: Jelenia Gora - Poland
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Ok... i found it in PDF Can send link by PM if somebody need it too. I had all Service Information from 79/80/82 but that 81 was really hard to find. And as I expected some things from it could help with identifying inputs/outputs from DITC. I will have some days off so hope to make some progress with wiring scheme.  _________________ 931 82' - 5000km after full engine rebuild
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yulas
Joined: 31 May 2023 Posts: 2 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hello!
I am fixing a porsche 924 turbo for a friend.
I have a problem with DITC. When starting randomly, the tachometer shows 3000 rpm and the engine stops - ignition occurs at random times.
I would like to replace the sensor with a modern one and connect the signal to DITC. On MC14017B, I found the place of the impulses from the trigger wheel. I would like to compare with the schematic if it exists.
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stevekat

Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 719 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:34 am Post subject: |
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That info may be in 924 turbo supplements to the shop manual (81+.) There is a 924 turbo binder that gets added to the 924 shop manual set, then there were supplements to that for various years, representing changes (like DITC.) _________________ "Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right. Unless you are goin' all the way."
Gone to new home: '81 924T, US version, CGT Intercooler, UTCIS-PT, Euro DITC, Greddy Trust MBC, Forged Fuchs Flat Dish 6's, Factory Recaro's. |
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kondzi

Joined: 02 Jul 2018 Posts: 485 Location: Poland/EU
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:19 am Post subject: |
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yulas wrote: | Hello!
I am fixing a porsche 924 turbo for a friend.
I have a problem with DITC. When starting randomly, the tachometer shows 3000 rpm and the engine stops - ignition occurs at random times.
I would like to replace the sensor with a modern one and connect the signal to DITC. On MC14017B, I found the place of the impulses from the trigger wheel. I would like to compare with the schematic if it exists.
Regards |
Check my resurrection thread.
https://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=43790&sid=5d3325c226a70d6ca47cdf5a1798b4d3
There is a guy in the forum that is making brand new sensors for 931 DITC.
https://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=45010&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 _________________ ---
Konrad
'89 951 US
'88 Mustang 5.0 LX Convertible (factory specs)
'84 911 Carrera 3.2 RoW (factory specs)
'81 931 RoW (TBD)
'81 Ford Capri 2.8i (factory specs)
'79 Ford Capri 2.9 (heavily modded) |
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yulas
Joined: 31 May 2023 Posts: 2 Location: Poland
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