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Nobbi
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That is freakin amazin, you guys understand,and write german...
Herzlichen Glueckwunsch! 
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Timmay!
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Gleich falz.....
OK, Nobbi, you are our contact with Marc Noack at Porsche Classic.
Get in there and find that document that I posted here in order to see what the missing text is.
Oh, and translate it too! 
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scm924s
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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And please try and get some european spec Martini owners to post their original paint details here!
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1984 n/a Ruby Red Metallic
1988 924S Guards red- sold
1986 924S Guards Red - sold
1984 n/a Black - sold
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Timmay!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Excellent point!
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Nobbi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Looks that i do have a new profession...
I see what i can find out, but my gess is that every fact is on the table.
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dick-dastardly
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agfisher
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Location: West Hartford, CT
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| dick-dastardly wrote: | Got this sent to my club from a German member ?
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This is the sticker from my 77 Martini. This car has been in my family since it was bought in 77 so I know it's original paint and original sticker.
I don't think that is a 1977 era color sticker. Looks much newer then that. The border, the lower case instead of a capital leading character, I think the font is a little different too (but I'm not an expert in that).
Adam
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edredas
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Location: Charlotte, NC
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Even if Grand Prix White was used on the 924, it wouldn't have the same paint code that the 911 had.
LM3A= Guards Red 924/944
027= Guards Red 911/928
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scm924s
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Well guys, this issue still seems to rumble on. Having had a sample for L93Z Policewhite mixed, this is nothing like my car. It is a very rich cream colour and doesn't match anything on mine.
Has anyone tried to do a paint match to ascertain what they have, preferably on an original car, which may get us a step nearer?
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1984 n/a Ruby Red Metallic
1988 924S Guards red- sold
1986 924S Guards Red - sold
1984 n/a Black - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#1 - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#2- sold
1977 Martini - sold |
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Timmay!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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One problem with that is that many of the chemicals used to make the older colors are now illegal. Oil based paints vs. the newer water based paints. 
Dick,
where exactly did the GP white decal pic come from?
Cheers!
TC
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BC931
Joined: 27 Aug 2021
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:52 pm Post subject: I didn't know white was a colour |
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This has been a fun thread to read. I have a couple semi-serious comments based on that reading.
What makes you believe Porsche only used 1 colour on the Martinis? I could easily believe different markets used a base of different whites, maybe depending what was in the paint shop that day.
I was at a Porsche Club event once, where the owners of 3 Seal Grey cars were comparing notes. The cars were different shades, sitting side by side in the same light, and all purported to be the same colour.
Maybe white isn't a colour!
Please return to the dialogue, already in progress.
Let the record reflect that my Cayman is "Pure White, a Cayenne colour" and 931 is Alpine white! |
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Timmay!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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BC931,
The martini 924's were built over the course of only 3 months or so. 12/76 - 03/77 ?
There wouldn't be any reason for "paint to run out" or "let's substitute this instead." Everything I've seen points to these cars being painted in Police White, though the factory archive notes mention something about "or Grand Prix White."
Police White L93Z is creamy, Grand Prix White L908 is super bright. Not even close in color.
Another Martini car just came up for sale in SoCal. The owner didn't even know what it was! Repainted in white with stripes removed. But I could see the bright ORANGE carpeting and the World Championship plaque just behind the shifter. I'll see if he can verify the paint code decal in the driver's door jam.
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944 spec # 22 924S
77 924 Martini. Rescued. Sold
88 924S SE. Rescued. Sold
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BC931
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Porsche has done stranger things.
I lament the repaint that is not sympathetic to the original, unfortunately not everybody cares. My car was repainted before I got it, and the Alpine White over Guards Red looks reasonable, but then they painted the front valance black. Not sure what I'll do about that, but its way down the list for now.
I applaud the effort to document the special, but we should remember that its not anything to get too worked up over. |
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Timmay!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed. Not worked up over it. Just a fun exercise in finding the real history of these cars. Doesn't matter so much if I'm proven wrong. It's more important to get it right.
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944 spec # 22 924S
77 924 Martini. Rescued. Sold
88 924S SE. Rescued. Sold
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scm924s
Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| BC931 wrote: |
I applaud the effort to document the special, but we should remember that its not anything to get too worked up over. |
This is an old thread long forgotten. Not sure I would agree with the comments above being someone to whom originality is king.
Research of long forgotten details of vehicles (or any historical artefact for that matter) is key to the restorer trying to restore back to original. Doing something nearly right isn't really an option.
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1984 n/a Ruby Red Metallic
1988 924S Guards red- sold
1986 924S Guards Red - sold
1984 n/a Black - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#1 - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#2- sold
1977 Martini - sold |
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