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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:14 pm    Post subject: Leaking Cam Cover Gasket Reply with quote

Noticed that I have a slight leak on my cam cover gasket. So I am getting a drop or two on my garage floor. It looks like quite a job to replace gasket as well as the replacing recommended parts like the timing belt & water pump - is it necessary if its a slight leak? Is there a way to just tighten the bolts near the gasket? The car holds 4.5 - 5 quarts of oil; a drip here and there shouldn't matter on a 27 year old car right? On the Internet the repair shops say fix ASAP and the long time Porsche owners say just live with it and top off the oil.

Another question - how come the NA versions of the our 924s (including my 1986 924S) don't have the fog light and front bumper like the ROW cars. Is it because the Federal regulations required the rubber bumper pieces int he front? If you haven't seen it the British show "Wheeler Dealer" did an episode on the Porsche 924 in 2003. It can found on YouTube or rebroadcast on Velocity - it was quite entertaining. Thanks - Ted
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the leak is at the lower rear and is small you can let it slide for a while. If its in the front and can get on the belt (shouldn't if the covers are on) it should be fixed asap.
The timing belt should be changed while your "in there" but if its been done recently its not a necessity. If you decide to do the cam tower seal without doing the front service; You'll have to set it on TDC and loosen the belt to get it off the cam gear, no need to touch the balance belt. You can then R&R the tower & gasket.
It won't hurt to retorque the cam tower bolts, unless you break one....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To change to cam cover gasket takes no more than 10mins. Just undo the 10 (i think) m6 nuts, pull the cover off then R&R the gaskets. No need to touch the timing belt or cover.
If its leaking from the cam shaft oil seal then you will have to remove timing cover, loosen the timing belt and slide it off the sprocket, undo the large bolt holding the sprocket onto the cam and remove sprocket. Then R&R the seal and reassemble. Still an easy job.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daniel wrote:
To change to cam cover gasket takes no more than 10mins. Just undo the 10 (i think) m6 nuts, pull the cover off then R&R the gaskets. No need to touch the timing belt or cover.
If its leaking from the cam shaft oil seal then you will have to remove timing cover, loosen the timing belt and slide it off the sprocket, undo the large bolt holding the sprocket onto the cam and remove sprocket. Then R&R the seal and reassemble. Still an easy job.


He has an '87 924S.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the cam tower gasket gets compromised a small leak can get bigger fairly quickly. You can let it go for now, but as soon as the oil starts smoking off your exhaust manifold, get the job done. Order your parts now and be prepared. Cam tower R&R is straightforward but there are a couple of pitfalls.

The cam belt has to be slipped off the cam - if you haven't done your belts in a while, now's the time.

If you're doing belts, check the water pump and maybe do it as well; plus all rollers and tensioners.

The cam tower bolts require a little finesse, but the subject has been covered ad nauseam. Get a good long 6mm hex tool.

Be prepared to catch all the lifters when you get the tower off.

Clean, clean, clean the gasket surface. This is where most of your time will go. If this isn't really clean, the new gasket will leak right away. Make sure all the oil is drained out of the tower so you don't risk contaminating the new gasket on install.

There's more, but this is a well-documented subject.

Above all, have fun!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daniel wrote:
To change to cam cover gasket takes no more than 10mins.




But in Daniel's defense, the 2.5 does not have a cam cover/valve cover. . .it's a cam box or housing.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



O/P said 27-year-old gasket. Which makes the car an 87. Which means 924S.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Leaking Cam Cover Gasket Reply with quote

tedder wrote:
Noticed that I have a slight leak on my cam cover gasket. So I am getting a drop or two on my garage floor. It looks like quite a job to replace gasket as well as the replacing recommended parts like the timing belt & water pump - is it necessary if its a slight leak? Is there a way to just tighten the bolts near the gasket? The car holds 4.5 - 5 quarts of oil; a drip here and there shouldn't matter on a 27 year old car right? On the Internet the repair shops say fix ASAP and the long time Porsche owners say just live with it and top off the oil.

Another question - how come the NA versions of the our 924s (including my 1986 meant 1987 924S) don't have the fog light and front bumper like the ROW cars. Is it because the Federal regulations required the rubber bumper pieces int he front? If you haven't seen it the British show "Wheeler Dealer" did an episode on the Porsche 924 in 2003. It can found on YouTube or rebroadcast on Velocity - it was quite entertaining. Thanks - Ted

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-Cover, Timing Belt, and Water pump. 2 hours max while drinking some brew in the garage.

Get the timing kit that has the belt and the tensioner (looks like a hockey puck)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThomasJoseph315 wrote:
V-Cover, Timing Belt, and Water pump. 2 hours max while drinking some brew in the garage.

Get the timing kit that has the belt and the tensioner (looks like a hockey puck)


Its a 924S S! It has the 2.5L Porsche motor, not the 2.0L VW/Audi. Much more complex.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems Simon, James and Stefan all passed English Comprehension 101.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slam wrote:
It seems Simon, James and Stefan all passed English Comprehension 101.



Semms your a ghrammar naziiii....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Grandma was never a Nazi!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThomasJoseph315 wrote:
Slam wrote:
It seems Simon, James and Stefan all passed English Comprehension 101.



Semms your a ghrammar naziiii....


Called it!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems my attempt at levity failed...

Sorry if I got under anyone's skin.

http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink13u5t91.html
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