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txjake
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 395 Location: Oklahoma City OK
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | txjake wrote: | | Unless they are made from recycled beer cans, I DGAS |
Don't jinx yourself! |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: | | So, somebody step up and offer to act as the voice of concerned 924board enthusiasts. Compile a comprehensive list of questions. Send it to me via PM or email by Monday morning of next week. I'll see what I can do to get some answers. |
(morghen excepted). _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Nobody else sent anything? Well i hope the list i sent will do. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| gerben1986 wrote: | | Dan, what is the PET-code for this part? |
046 198 451 for standard
046 198 453 for +.25mm / +.010" _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Confirmed participants:- danbles, invoiced
- Grenadiers, paid
- 924-76, paid
- jscott, paid
- Ian Edgerly, invoiced
- Fifty50Plus, invoiced
- !tom, invoiced
- ak907matt, requested email address
_________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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motormouth
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 123 Location: Canton
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Two questions:
Would the part number for +.50mm be 046 198 455
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+.75mm be 046 198 457 then following the pattern for the .25mm over sizes?
Also, I would be curious as to what the questions are and what their respective answers are. Can this information be made public? I would find it interesting to see what factors were taken into account when determining bearings. |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| motormouth wrote: | Would the part number for +.50mm be 046 198 455
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+.75mm be 046 198 457 then following the pattern for the .25mm over sizes? |
Yes and Yes. This information is in section 198 of the PET.
| motormouth wrote: | | Also, I would be curious as to what the questions are and what their respective answers are. Can this information be made public? I would find it interesting to see what factors were taken into account when determining bearings. |
So far, I've only gotten questions from morghen. I will send them off to see if we can get answers (no promises). I will post back whatever responses I get back. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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tyfighter123

Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 551 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Hey Dan I am in for 2 sets of the .25 unders. Thanks for your hard work _________________ Porsche 924 1977 N/A
Mustang GT/CS 2007
Porsche 924S 1987 (parts car)(cut up and recycled)
Porsche 911S 1976
Porsche 931 1980
Porsche 931 1980 (parts car) |
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txjake
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 395 Location: Oklahoma City OK
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:15 am Post subject: |
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I need to pull down my build engine and mike the crank, might be a while before I get to this. Is this a one shot thing or a repeat item? You might have said that, but I don't recall _________________ 1978 924, aka The Red Rocker |
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daniel
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I am happy to take Dan's guarantee that the bearings are the correct size and an appropriate material. He hasn't let me down before and when there has been a problem he has sorted it out (remember the head gaskets?).
Ill have 2x sets of mains at 0.25
Can we get undersized bigends as well?
PS I cant pay for 2-3 weeks, hope this is OK. _________________ Over the top of skyline, total brake failure.... hit the wall at over 200 kp/h at the dipper, so anyone who has to brake for the esses is a pussy.
1977.5 Race Car, CAMS Group S Spec
1989 944 Cabriolet |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| tyfighter123 wrote: | | Hey Dan I am in for 2 sets of the .25 unders. Thanks for your hard work |
Thanks Ty, will add you to the list.
| txjake wrote: | | I need to pull down my build engine and mike the crank, might be a while before I get to this. Is this a one shot thing or a repeat item? You might have said that, but I don't recall |
No, this order should hopefully end the concern about these bearings ever going NLA again. This is simply an opportunity to get in on the pre-order to save a few dollars. So anyone who doesn't need bearings right this moment should have no problem getting them later, albeit at the higher price.
| Quote: | I am happy to take Dan's guarantee that the bearings are the correct size and an appropriate material. He hasn't let me down before and when there has been a problem he has sorted it out (remember the head gaskets?).
Ill have 2x sets of mains at 0.25
Can we get undersized bigends as well?
PS I cant pay for 2-3 weeks, hope this is OK. |
Thanks for the kind words, Daniel, very much appreciated! Will add you to the list. Pre-order pricing is good until 15 February, so plenty of time.
Big ends in standard and first under (or over, depending on which convention you prefer to use!) are readily available, no problem. $62 per set. --> http://garage.ideola.com/prod-EngineRebuildKits.html#block _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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daniel
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Great news, when the mains are ready to ship i and if I have some spare cash i'll grab some so I have complete sets for rebuilds. _________________ Over the top of skyline, total brake failure.... hit the wall at over 200 kp/h at the dipper, so anyone who has to brake for the esses is a pussy.
1977.5 Race Car, CAMS Group S Spec
1989 944 Cabriolet |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have a question for the manufacturer:
What kind of warranty will be in effect if there is a manufacturing defect in the parts, and that defect causes incidental damage, such as damage to other engine components (crank, block) or the cost of gaskets, supplies or labor for an engine teardown?
TIA
rasta _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Danblez
Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 2 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:58 pm Post subject: Paid |
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Thanks a lot Dan! _________________ 1981 932 |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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These are the questions submitted to me by morghen, which we forwarded to the manufacturer:
GENERAL- What other bearings are made by the manufacturer? For example, do they also make some Honda/Mazda/Toyota bearings that we can look into and see how are they doing on the market in terms of quality and reliability?
- Is there any warranty? If yes, who offers it and in which form?
DIMENSION CONTROL- Did they copy/paste the tolerances from other bearings they make or did they take into consideration the tolerances shown in the 924 tech specs booklet (diameter tolerance, radial runout, circularity runout, etc.)?
- Did they / will they perform a hi-lo study with the set of tolerances they chose?
- Did they / will they perform an FMEA study to identify critical items?
- Did they / will they match the surface quality (smoothness) of the King/OEM parts, or did they use some other specification?
QUALITY CHECK- How often do they measure parts and how do they do it (gauge, 3D machine and jig, etc.)?
- Do they also measure surface quality?
- Do they measure material hardness? If yes, how?
- Do they make sure the prime materials are always the same?
CONSTRUCTION & MATERIAL COMPOSITION- Layer definition, i.e; how many layers, and what order?
- Material appears to be AlSn10Si2.5 from the drawing, but how does that translate to the types of materials used in each layer?
Some answers to follow in next post. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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