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Arvidw
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 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:18 am Post subject: How much is a GT intercooler worth |
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Can anybody give a rough price range for a 924 carrera GT intercooler?
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Carrera RSR
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Last two I saw sell in Germany went for sub $1200. Can't remember the exact price but could have been less than $1000. Two have been on ebay.de in the last two years
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Nein37
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:34 am Post subject: |
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From a sellers point of view, I'm gonna be looking for $1600 US. Anything less and its worth more to me on the shelf.
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Carrera RSR
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| Nein37 wrote: | | From a sellers point of view, I'm gonna be looking for $1600 US. Anything less and its worth more to me on the shelf. |
Just looked back. A genuine CGT TMIC sold in June 2010 for €710.
For similar money you could buy a 951 front end/FMIC/Rad, cut off and weld into your 931, repaint nose, plumb in and still have change
Anything more than €1000/$1000 and you're dreaming. Best keep it on the shelf!
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924-76
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Wow, are they that good or it’s only base on rarity.
A used 951 FMIC cost between $50 and $100 and I would believe they are more efficient.
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Not as much as they used to be worth before Dan contracted Bell Intercoolers to fab up a better unit.
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9xx
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Those who have one tend think they are worth around 1000-1200 euros but those who wish they had one think its worth less.  This way or that way, the genuine Längerer & Reich unit already has some historical value to it too. There are better intercoolers out there for a lot less but the LR unit is from Le Mans homologation version and therefore it is special and worth a lot more than a 951 unit which you can buy for pocket money.
911 Carrera RS '73 is a damn expensive car but are there better cars available for a lot less money? Sure. How about an early 356? Maybe you could buy one for 5000 euros if you just told the seller that they aren't actually that good. 
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| Carrera RSR wrote: | | buy a 951 front end/FMIC/Rad, cut off and weld into your 931 |
Been meaning to ask. . .I don't suppose you photographed this process?
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flosho
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Bah, you don't need no 951 front clip... just a metal saw and some zip ties...
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Nein37
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| Carrera RSR wrote: | | Anything more than €1000/$1000 and you're dreaming. Best keep it on the shelf! |
I think ultimately the pricing of these units are highly dependent on each particular buyer... its not as if they are available very often. If someone is deadset on making a CGT replica, or in need of a replacement for whatever reason, then they'll pay a premium. If its just as an IC option for a 931 then less so.
The "CHEAP" 951 IC idea gets thrown alot but unless you can fab stuff yourself it will be just as costly if not more. (caveat: I agree that performance wise it is the best solution, but bolt on... it is not.)
I think Rasta is right that Ideola's TMIC solution makes the OEM unit less attractive but then again for $1200 what would you rather have??? Because the OEM units are rare a buyer gets the benefit of real world value baked in. Buy an CGT IC and it will be worth a good amount of the price you paid, if not more, down the road.
I personally don't think $1600 is out of line, might take a little while to find a buyer but the IC isn't gonna spoil sitting on the shelf in the meantime.
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Carrera RSR
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Carrera RSR wrote: | | buy a 951 front end/FMIC/Rad, cut off and weld into your 931 |
Been meaning to ask. . .I don't suppose you photographed this process? |
No. It was done by the body shop so just a before and after pics. Cut and welded at the 'seams' so it looks OEM rather than a 'bodge' with a saw and zip ties 
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Carrera RSR
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Carrera RSR wrote: | | buy a 951 front end/FMIC/Rad, cut off and weld into your 931 |
Been meaning to ask. . .I don't suppose you photographed this process? |
No. It was done by the body shop so just a before and after pics. Cut and welded at the 'seams' so it looks OEM rather than a 'bodge' with a saw and zip ties
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Arvidw
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Raceboy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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In my view CGT original intercooler would be worth the 1000+ euro sum only for period correct replica or repair of the authentic GT.
For this kind of sum one can buy a complete turbo kit+ modified 951 intercooler (doesn't require removing badge panel) and have 250+hp on his 924.
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rappendaf
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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it comes from 931 ori look here Many owners have thought of installing an intercooler in their vehicle .Some have searched for the original Carrera GT unit. Some have tried the 951 unit, and some have fitted units from other makes. No luck trying to find an original. The only one that could be located was priced at $2500/US. There are also “homemade” units available ,but the quality may be questionable, so those were avoided. A 951 unit was purchased at last year’s Hershey swap meet for $150/US. The unit’s part number is: 951.110.137.03 It is very large and well constructed. It was used on the 951 Turbo S, which produced 247hp: a 931 won’t outgrow it
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