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Bryan M
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 Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: distributors |
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is there a list of compatibility of distributors? such as, what other model vehicles used the same(audi, scirocco, rabbit?)
advantages or disadvantages to using these? a chart of advance curves for different distributors.
one of the pick-up prongs on mine seems distorted and i thought i'd try another. would an earlier model dist offer a better or worse curve for my '79? my dist model # is 0237 003 008
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Harm
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:44 am Post subject: Re: distributors |
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Pressed quote to get this thread on a roll…
| Bryan M wrote: | | is there a list of compatibility of distributors? such as, what other model vehicles used the same(audi, scirocco, rabbit?) |
Scirocco and Rabbit bolt down differently/don't fit IIRC
& I'm not aware of crossover versions.
A lot of online listings you could check out though, using Googlywoogly?
| Bryan M wrote: | | a chart of advance curves for different distributors. |
Page 131 of the Haynes manual sums up four different distributor test bench curves;
Centrifugal & Vacuum advance curve, showing:
— 125 Hp, European models
— 95 Hp, US models (1976 — 1977½)
— 110 Hp, US models (1977 — 1979)
— Turbo, US models
…all different!
Say Bryan …you did buy a Haynes manual, right?
Yeah, too bad the online version died a month ago.  (Google Cache?)
| Quote: | | would an earlier model dist offer a better or worse curve for my '79? |
Can't say because I don't grasp the US curves mentioned in there:
What are those negative curved lines? Let me quess; Emissions control?
Do you still have your emissions control attached under the hood Bryan?
BTW the number you mentioned is the Bosch number:
—Your Bosch # 0 237 003 008
— My Bosch # 0 237 002 054
Your Toofah being a '79 should be # 047 905 205 I guess?
My EU distributor reads # 477 905 206 and is different inside.
HTH
Have a nice Feierabend, Harm.
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Bryan M
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:28 am Post subject: |
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actually, it came with the purchase of the car. i saw that chart, but it doesn't distinguish part #'s.
i don't know what #'s belong to what years.
afaik, everything is still under the hood. still learning.
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Harm
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:08 am Post subject: Re: distributors |
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Allright, so what do you think would be the best curve/distributor to be used?
And what is your engine code?
For part numbers/reference between years you want to look into the PET katalog pdf's; There are several of them:
Early and late versions (PLUS in German (LHD), English (RHD) and US English (LHD)).
To avoid having to start up Adobe Acrobat to read them, my lazy me visits the AA site for a quick visual and simple reference,
keeping in mind some of the Euro parts are missing up there since its located in the US.
(BTW I never bought stuff from AA)
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Bryan M
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: |
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not that i claim to be an expert on the subject, but my vote would be #1 for the euro model, #2 for the 95hp model.
i was assuming that others would fit, but just because something fits doesn't mean it would be ok for the application. what i was hoping to compare, is that if other models fit, would the curves be nearly the same as the stockers. but, if other models won't fit, then there's no point to keep looking into it.
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Harm
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: Re: distributors |
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| Bryan M wrote: | | one of the pick-up prongs on mine seems distorted and i thought i'd try another. |
Ok, but your distributor is still distorted in some way.
Maybe someone uphere that went EFI could help you out with a replacement.
And regarding the engine code: It corolates to a specific distributor. Is yours still the contact breaker point type? You will have to replace these once in a while and/or measure the gap etc.
Just picking up a Euro dizzy wouldn't work right away since there is other electronics involved as well.
Cheers, Harm.
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Bryan M
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:12 am Post subject: |
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i will get a pic of it tomorrow.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Talking of points gap on euro dizzy's, is it 16thou like in the old VW days??
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Should be set with a dwell meter, not gapped. Go for around 48°.
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Bryan M
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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am i going nuts? i could've sworn i posted these pics earlier
[img]http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads18/0161296315474.jpg [/img]
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:34 am Post subject: Re: distributors |
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—Straighten the bent prong by comparison to the other three.
While revolving it by hand you will feel a slight resistance (at least both of mine do that).
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—That is the right Bosch circlip. Give the circlip a little tap to make it return/sit back in place, in the groove. Replace it when weak. I had to: Couldn't find an exact replacement but it's holding it down alright.
Make sure you loose al that (magnetic) “steel dust” thats sitting there! Some WD40 and compressed air would do to clean it up.
On the side of the housing there is a small steel shutter: See inside if its clean down there and apply some grease while you are at it to get/keep the centrifugal advance in shape. Make sure the vacuum advance moves …by creating a little vacuum, appleid by your mouth I'd guess, dunno
Taking it apart looks easier then it is. PITA, at least at my one.
Once I realy needed to get it apart to replace a part down inside that was missing… Well, make sure you have the right tools.
BTW. I was expecting your distributor to be more different on the inside?
And I see it's still sitting attached to the head: If you don't feel comfortable taking that off, mark it down there (by a tip of paint) where it sits on the head so you can easily return it to that spot and take excessive photographs of how the Rotor is sitting on top. It would be best though if the engine was sitting at TDC (number one cilinder) when you do this, or even better, the sweet spot!  Easy for future references.
@Daniel: Regarding the points gap I can't be sure; I don't have the breaker point type distributor on the Toofah.
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Question? I was looking at the picture of the distributer and was wondering where does that vaccume hose go to?? I'm a little lost need some help
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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You can't just swap distributors at will cars with conventional points have different ignition systems from the cars with the two different types of electronic ignition, which also have different distributors.
You cannot swap distributors between the electronic ignition models either. |
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