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John Brown

Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 903 Location: Leesburg VA
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: exhaust systems |
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| daveo wrote: | just been looking in the search under exhaust systems & found this
The cheapest relatively inexpensive exhaust improvement is a switch to the 944 exhaust system. ... This is a proven upgrade that should yield 8-10hp, and has on other dyno'ed cars. |
I'm hoping you mean this came up in a search of the forums here and NOT from something published on the main site??? Cause it's BS.
The only reason to use a 944 exhaust is because you may find a used one in serviceable condition at a good price more easily than the relatively less common 924 parts. There will be NO increase in power. NONE. _________________ John
80 931 - #931 44Cup
99 Escalade - tows track cars
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John Brown

Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 903 Location: Leesburg VA
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| morghen wrote: | | with all the jokes around i can tell you that i tested this issue and a lower front spoiler will make the 924 handle better at hight speeds. |
I'm not entirely sure if you are being serious?? However, absolutely YES. A simple air dam keeps the air out from under the car and we get about a 150 rpm benefit, for example, at the end of the front straight at Summit Point Raceway with the little #55 car.
But, as always, I wouldn't bother for street use. This car also weighs about 2200 lbs. Sits on 325lb front etc etc. Has an Integral cam. Carbs. Headers with straight exhaust (for the weight savings as much as power - but with the other mods it gives us something). And, even with an interphone system it's too loud to talk above an idle. So, yeah, give all the above and being almost 1000 lbs lighter; the air dam does something. The straight exhaust hurst my ears  _________________ John
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Two independent experienced, competent, sources have used the 944 exhaust modification/upgrade on their cars, and on customer cars, and wrote that it is good for 8-10 horsepower.
One is Don in Texas. I don't remember his last name. Don is a known 924 racer, with a shop that has a good reputation. He, and his shop, build, race, and maintain, racing and street Porsches. His word is good enough for me.
I don't remember who the other guy was at the time, but he 2nded the same modification/upgrade and said that he was getting the same result.
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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The 944 downpipe has the cat welded to it. The 944 downpipe will not bolt directly to the 924 exhaust manifold.
To use the 944 downpipe need to hang the 944 final muffler, then attach the 944 downpipe assembly to figure out exactly where to cut the downpipe so it can be attached to the 924 downpipe at the existing rear flange of the 924 downpipe.
The 944 downpip/collector will not bolt directly onto the 924 exhaust manifold. If you want to use more of the 944 collector/downpipe, you would probably need to make a could of cuts and welds to the pipe. the 944 collects ends at a flange that is lower down than the 924 dowpipe. So you would have to add length to the 944 collector to bring it up to the 924 height of the 924 exhaust manifold. You might also need to play with the length of the 944 collector/cat assembly to make the 944 collector (with the added extension to meet the 924 exhaust manifold) meet the 944 final muffler assembly in the stock location). |
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9075 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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You'd be thinking of Don Istook. I do trust his input, and bug him from time to time...
One day I do hope to try out the Stahl header, but had to replace my header last year and didn't have $500 or so to fork out - so I went with another MSDS header. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Yep, Don Istook.
I was just pondering, trying to remember his last name, when it came to me. I dropped back in here to fill in his last name, and you beat me to it. |
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NBRettie18

Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 111 Location: Santa Barbara, California
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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i want to get a new exhaust system for my 87 924S. what kind can i get? ive looked around and cant really find any. _________________ 1987 924S - MO30 30/19 - Yellows all around |
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John Brown

Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 903 Location: Leesburg VA
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Don Istook would certainly be a reputable source. Still, he messed with these cars a LONG time ago. Dynos were not all that common then. So I wonder if he really did JUST an exhaust change and then dyno'd a car? And our recollection of the details may be faulty after all that time. So I wonder if other mods weren't done at the same time? 8-10hp is a lot of improvement. _________________ John
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tyfighter123

Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 551 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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So out of the options out there bursch, stahl, etc what is everyone using? _________________ Porsche 924 1977 N/A
Mustang GT/CS 2007
Porsche 924S 1987 (parts car)(cut up and recycled)
Porsche 911S 1976
Porsche 931 1980
Porsche 931 1980 (parts car) |
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