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chad-tanner
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 Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: O/T....Natural Disaster |
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Something like 1.5 million people lost there power from that storm.
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PORSCHEV
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Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Beautiful and brutal at the same time! Reminds me of the ice storm in quebec a few years back.
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Nobbi
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Why dont they put powerlines 1 meter deep into the ground like the rest of the world does?
A little bit of snow or a light tornado and the whole U:S shuts down...that cost s a lot of money each time.
Beside that, great pics !
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ideola
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Location: Spring Lake MI
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| Nobbi wrote: | | Why dont they put powerlines 1 meter deep into the ground like the rest of the world does? |
Old infrastructure, and no money to upgrade to underground. Most new developments do go underground, but the energy companies must find that it's cheaper to maintain the old poles than to dig trenches and pull wire thru the ground.
To illustrate.
My house was built in 1965. In the 80s, they expanded our development and put a new leg in to the north end of the sub. The main line runs right along the border of the rear of our 1/2 acre, and the new feed line to the north end of the sub runs right along the western property line. My lot is very heavily wooded, with classic Michigan climax hardwood forest...lots of Sugar Maples, Beech, Black Walnut, Ash, Hickory, and Basswood trees. Most are 80+ feet high, and anywhere from 10" to 24" in diameter. My back yard is so forested that when the canopy comes in full in May, you can't see the sky.
We have a dead Ash tree at the back of our lot, one of the largest on the property (killed by the emerald ash borer plague). About 50 feet up, the main trunk splits into two massive branches. Last winter, one of these came down. The part that fell is at least 40 feet long and 18" in diameter. Now, the stupid part. The line that feeds our house comes from the back of the lot off of the mainline, strung up for about 150 ft, right thru the most heavily forested part of our lot. Of course, when the Ash branch let loose, it took out our power.
I called DTE and insisted that the either bury the cable or move the pull to the side leg that would allow them to string up the main feed to my house from the side, which would not only be a much shorter run of about 30 feet, but would also eliminate exposure to falling branches. They refused to do it because they said it was cheaper to just string up the old line than it was to bury it or move. Nevermind the fact that within the next year or two, the rest of that Ash tree is going to come down and require them to come out again. Nevermind the fact that they ended up also having to pay to replace the $700 blower motor in my high efficiency furnace because when they turned the power back on, the surge wiped out the motor (and the furnace was only about 5 yrs old). But they are so short-sighted, they don't care.
That's why we still have above-ground poles all over the place.
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Fifty50Plus
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: |
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C'mon Dan, Tell us how you really feel...  |
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ideola
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| Fifty50Plus wrote: | | C'mon Dan, Tell us how you really feel... |
Hahah, no fair, Chuck, you've heard that story before! Tell 'em about your utility company!
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RC
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Bloody power companies run by greedy CEOs and bankers.  Purely a simple matter of short term economics. Environmental concerns, electromagnetic radiation (linked to cancer), deaths and injuries from vehicles hitting poles, and numerous other disadvantages, take little if no priority.
Aerial cables, of costly copper or aluminium, can be of a much thinner gauge for the equivalent capacity since they are air cooled and require no insulation. Poles are cheaper than excavators, labour, and the fact that the cable must be larger since it cant dissipate heat nearly as well underground.
(Don`t bother replying with a smart arse comment Rasta. Work out the most suitable or prettiest colour to paint your radiator.  )
While you guys in the northern hemisphere are copping it hard, we have the opposite but similar problem down under.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,24987296-2702,00.html?from=public_rss
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/740652/heat-deaths-help-fill-adelaide-morgue/?rss=yes
And this is the local beach:
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/gallery/0,22613,5037172-5014156,00.html[img][/img] |
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ideola
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| RC wrote: | | While you guys in the northern hemisphere are copping it hard, we have the opposite but similar problem down under. |
Yeah, there have been at least two news stories here in the Detroit area in the last week where elderly people have FROZEN to death because the power companies cut off their power. What a way to go 
It was -8°F here this morning. Global warming my you-know-what.
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dpw928
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Our power company used to have crews that trimmed any tree that could fell a power line during an ice storm. When power company was purchased by AEP 5 or 6 years ago, one of their cost cutting steps was to stop the tree trimming, so when the ice storm in December of 2006 hits we were without power for weeks and required federal assistance for cleanup. Now the power company is raising our rates to compensate for their losses.
BTW my power lines are underground but we lost power anyway due to the trunk line transformers/equipment being overloaded and damaged.
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RC
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: |
Yeah, there have been at least two news stories here in the Detroit area in the last week where elderly people have FROZEN to death because the power companies cut off their power. What a way to go
It was -8°F here this morning. Global warming my you-know-what. |
That really sucks big time, inhumane IMO. Hopefully Obama may be motivated to do something about that While the utility CEO`s get paid millions.
Many mainly old people have died as they cant afford AC or even the electricity to run a fan. Thankfully there will be a government coronal inquiry into the death of an old lady that died from heat exhaustion after her power was incorrectly disconnected because the power co mixed up the address.
Something like 600-800 transformers a day were blowing up and some suburbs had no power for days. On top of that there were deliberate cuts because the generators couldnt cope with the demand. Had the same situation last march during another 2 week heatwave. All went downhill some years ago after the government sold out the publicly owned infrastructure to private commercial ventures. Obviously they only consider their bottom line and allow the system to deteriorate.
Global warming? Come down under for a while and see if your views change. Admit to some skepticism but believe scientists more than politicians. Maybe just a relatively short term cycle of 100`s or 1000`s of years. Has got hotter (statistically) just in my short lifetime. Australian rivers are drying up (not only from warming though, more greed) and rainfall figures have declined substantially on average.
Perhaps one day in the future we`ll be trading our uranium for your snow.  |
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ideola
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: | | We have a dead Ash tree at the back of our lot, one of the largest on the property (killed by the emerald ash borer plague). About 50 feet up, the main trunk splits into two massive branches. Last winter, one of these came down. The part that fell is at least 40 feet long and 18" in diameter. Now, the stupid part. The line that feeds our house comes from the back of the lot off of the mainline, strung up for about 150 ft, right thru the most heavily forested part of our lot. Of course, when the Ash branch let loose, it took out our power. |
Funny thing happened about two weeks ago. That same ash tree had the second major branch come down in a thunderstorm. About 8 feet of the branch fell horizontally, but then the remain 40 feet of it stayed veritical, but fell about 6 fee from the main trunk, embedded itself in the ground so it was standing like a stand-alone tree (rootless of course), and then fell back and was being held up by the main power lines that run along the easement at the back of our property / subdivision. So DTE had to come out yet again to chop it all up. Thankfully, we didn't wipe out power to rest of the 'hood. But the main trunk is still standing, at about 40 feet high, and could still take out power when it eventually goes down!!!
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datatrain
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Around here if your trees bring down power lines you pay the costs to fix 'em. But they do major preventative all the time to stop falling branches and trees.
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chad-tanner
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Just letting you guys know,Theres a a snow storm headed my way,I think it will begain sometime late tonight into the early morning,and continue through tomorrow.Expecting about a foot of snow,thats significant for this part of the country,athough not historically record breaking,It's still maybe,one the largest snow falls of my lifetime.
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