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Scorpio  



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: Removing paint , saving galvanising question Reply with quote

Im undecided as to how to strip the existing paint before a respray.

The car has in the past had two full resprays so paint is quite thick..and i found it can chip off in some spots.

I dont want to remove the galvanised coating

My options are

1) paint stripper ( will it remove the galvanizing aswell????)
2) orbital grinding to bare metal( will probably remove alot of galvanizing)
3) orbital sanding to remove a few layers of the paint.

Bead/sand.etc blasting isnt an option

Any ideas?
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Min  



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blast it with walnut shell or plastic bead? I know you said it isn't an option ... but why not? heh.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess its not that its not an option but more that i dont have the equipment..and its a bit expensive to have done

. actually ive got a 60 litre compressor can pick up some blasting material...mm whats needed for a home blasting job min?? how long does it take??
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Min  



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, if you already have the compressor you have the biggest most expensive part. Buy a small siphon feed sandblaster(30 bucks maybe?) and put the tube in a container of media, press the trigger. Just need dry air, and media. Biggest problems are, the mess it makes (gets everywhere) and the cost of media (if you control the mess, you can sweep it up and reuse it) It will take quite awhile, took my buddy about 20 minutes today to blast off his intake manifold in my shop. So for a whole car, a couple weekends of work? If you use walnut shell, or plastic bead, it should just remove the paint, not the metal at all. Since the metal is harder than the media your using. If your really interested in it I'd probably recommend building a pressure assist blaster. I can email you some plans for one, it would make the job much easier overall, and you can use a much lower pressure (meaning you will be less likely to damage the galvanization)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wet sand off just the paint, leave the primer. All you need is sandpaper and some friends and a few bottles of Bundy.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adding media blasting to my repoitre would be an awesome skill to have..
min can you send me that building a media blaster pressure thing info?

Im sure i could random orbital sand down to primer in an afternoon then 600 wet sand to finish..

Or paint stripper in a few hours

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Wet sand off just the paint, leave the primer. All you need is sandpaper and some friends and a few bottles of Bundy


Hey Paul you love your bundy dont ya!! haha..ive got close to ten bottles of bundy black....discontinued and hard to get
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bundy is like air and sex, you don't think much about it unless you're not getting any!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure, whats your email address?

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RC  



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to take it back to bare galved metal a heat gun and blunt scraper is effective but slow. With practice and patience it could be scraped off to the original primer.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats a big job thenk god our cars are really sosmall.paint stripper is messy.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the place for you Scorpio to spread out....

$50 a sq meter under cover, alarmed very close to Redbank Railway Station, ( Brisbane Qld ) saw the sign today and will try to arrange some photos if interested. Total area 1200 sq metres.

And it has a realy realy realy BIG compressor

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alan funny thing is i was actually looking into some industrial warehouse space last night!.. just confirming $50 sqm/pa ?

is that 1200 sq/m a minimum amount..ie would we need to lease it all?

i needed some space to do

1) car work
2) wave tank testing for a engineering project im working on

What do you think of setting up a single spray booth in an industrial shed...charge around $350 to $500 for use...for a 6 to8 hr period as brisbane has none of these.. that way rent could pay off itself!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have PM ed you



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya Scorp. Bare metalled my toofah some years back with paint stripper. Did a great job, and does NOT remove galvanising unless you are injudicious with the paint scraper.
Basically i did a section at a time - half a bonnet, then the other half and so on. Liberally coat with paint stripper (must be good quality, buy from auto paint wholesalers) and wait while it bubbles. Then simply scrape off and wipe mess on old newspapers. If paint is really thick then you may need several coats, but unlikely if you spend the dollars on good quality stripper. Oh and wear disposable gloves - the stripper bites.
Wipe over with wetted rag several times to neutalise stripper and finish with thinners or metho.
Took me less than a day to do whole car, including inside the door jambs.
Cheers Pete
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one goes on for 5 pages, but the stripping's covered within page 1 -
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19177


-and another -
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=20353
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