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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh heh, "Paprika" would be great, maybe I'd buy one if they did call it that! However, we should be realistic. Porsche would never go with a name like that, it needs to start with a "C", so I'm guessing it will be the "Porsche Cinnamon."
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vw i4 t powertrain @ 200hp, with the potential for awd ...lets not forget, Porsche once again has full access to the VW parts bins... including tdi options...

picture aside, i think this concept will end up with a cayman type nose, targa top and only the sail panels to make it look 914ish...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And even if it don't come that way, VW motor could mean bolt-in R32 conversion. . .MID ENGINE.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh wait, I just remembered that nowadays cars are too heavy.

If they could make the new 914 the equal weight of the original (or lighter with their fancy composite materials) I'd buy one...

not more than 800kg.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgalyon wrote:
I think it looks an awful lot like the Toyota MR2:





Agreed, at least in that artist impression. But then, the Mister Two was obviously Toyota's interpretation of a Boxster...

Also agree with Martijnus. If the make it, I hope they can make it light enough. Lotus Elise style...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon that car will be at least 2600 pounds with today's regs and all the options we've grown to demand.

I've owned several 914s the first in the early 70's, so I would actually like the car to look a little more 914ish.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RASTA MONSTA- Yes your right! When the writer wrote about the 914 being mistakened by some for a modern Karmann Ghia of sorts, i suppose it was by non-enthusiasts who might have been alluding to its vw roots and its (to some) artsy fartsy looks(functional art?). Interesting how some writer from the period jokingly commented it looked like something NASA might have built.

PAUL-also as a previous 914 owner i would want it to also have a 914sh look if not the 914 character(but i suppose the character would be impossible).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Character traits of the original 914:

30 mpg
0-60 10 secs
sloppy shifter
lousy heater
terrible A/C
roll up windows
less than 6000 rpm redline
rust buckets
great brakes
great handling
valve adjstment every 15,000 miles
points and plugs every 15,000 miles
great highway cruiser
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,

You must have had early 914s...

I have enjoyed my 73 2.0L since 1997. The shifter has always worked just fine.

You got the valve adjustment schedule wrong. More like every 5K miles, and the engine lets me know when it's due, because it becomes harder to start in the morning.

The heater is more than adequate for use as the car is designed to be used (no snow or heavy rain, good weather only).

The only things that I would like are better storage fixures for the roof panel, redesigned wheel wells and suspension so wider tires can be fitted, better availability of different wheels (more choices), better roof sealing, better ventilation (defroster sucks), and more HP.

After you learn to drive the car effectively, more HP is needed. The chassis could always handle more than the engines installed by Porsche. redesigned suspension
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
Character traits of the original 914:

30 mpg
0-60 10 secs
sloppy shifter
lousy heater
terrible A/C
roll up windows
less than 6000 rpm redline
rust buckets
great brakes
great handling
valve adjstment every 15,000 miles
points and plugs every 15,000 miles
great highway cruiser


Probable character traits of new 914 based on mkv vw drivetrain:
29-35 mpg (deduct 12mpg for a vr6 platform)
0-60 7.2 sec - 6.5 vr6
200 hp (last 914 91 hp) 250 vr6
good heat and a/c
power everything (but hopefully a delete option!)
6500 redline (6k peak is likely)
100000 mile major service interval, 15k oil changes
rustproof body (maybe composite?)
3300 lb range (vs 2200 lbs for the 914)
high fun factor, but probably priced to be at least 38k, if were lucky...
start saving now...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gohim wrote:
Paul,

You must have had early 914s...

I have enjoyed my 73 2.0L since 1997. The shifter has always worked just fine.

You got the valve adjustment schedule wrong. More like every 5K miles, and the engine lets me know when it's due, because it becomes harder to start in the morning.

The heater is more than adequate for use as the car is designed to be used (no snow or heavy rain, good weather only).

The only things that I would like are better storage fixures for the roof panel, redesigned wheel wells and suspension so wider tires can be fitted, better availability of different wheels (more choices), better roof sealing, better ventilation (defroster sucks), and more HP.

After you learn to drive the car effectively, more HP is needed. The chassis could always handle more than the engines installed by Porsche. redesigned suspension



Gohim,

I've probably owned one from every year that they were manufactured except a 1976. The 2.0 73 is generally recognized as the best of the lot. They were relatively new and they were my only car in the mountains of PA so I drove them year round just as the Dr intended. Porsche never intended them to be nice weather cars since they even ran ads showing winter scenes. They did quite well in the snow with the proper tires, but the defroster needed to be better. Try the shifter in an X 1/9 or a MGB of the same era, and tell me once again that the 914's shifter is not sloppy. I repaired several motors for customers that over revved the motor when downshifting by failing to catch the correct gear. Porsche converted the shifter to a side shifter in the later cars which was better, but still lacking IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not being any kind of a mechanic or racer, the only thing i really didnt like at all w/my 76 914 was the heater. Especially the time i went up the colorado mountains with some heavy snow buildup and had no choice but to slow down rendering my heater barely working! What i would have wanted was more hp and seats that could recline all the way back for frequent naps that i took during my east to west coast trips.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at 25 large, i couldnt afford one. Not for awhile anyway, but id be sold.

As for a name, id go with

1. Medina
2. Valesso ( actually this sounds like something Ferrari)
3. Sierra
4. Vaylen
5. Spyker.. but that's already taken.

something along those lines...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 914 had SS heat exchangers, and when it was driven in Colorado winters, the heater could burn your ass out of the car.

I suspect many 914 heat/defroster issues are really adjustment issues with the crappei cables/linkages that control the Cavalcade of Flaps.

PS, I would trade Shaggy for a solid 73 or 74 2.0.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
PS, I would trade Shaggy for a solid 73 or 74 2.0.
Now that's a statement!

Paul, you forgot one of the most important characteristics, the targa style roof. I have ALWAYS associated the 914 with its roof, particularly because it was so much like my X1/9

Speaking of which, +1 to the Fiat X1/9 gearbox comment^. My first car was a 1974 Fiat X1/9. What a joy to drive! When it ran...! The worst part about that arrangement was there were two bolts that held the motor in place by screwing into the bottom of one of the rear cross members. They were susceptible to vibrating loose. And when they did, the engine would DROP DOWN on top of the gearbox, and you would then be stuck in whatever gear you happened to be in at the moment, until you get get the car somewhere to jack it up, find a new bolt, and reinstall it. Worst part was, being an uninitiated 17 year old mechanic, I overtightened one of the bolts, snapped the head right off. Drove the car for over a year with a single bolt holding the motor up!!! Needless to say, checking that one bolt became part of my daily pre-drive routine But it did shift smoothly when the engine was mounted properly!


Martijnus wrote:
If they could make the new 914 the equal weight of the original (or lighter with their fancy composite materials) I'd buy one...not more than 800kg.
Not for ~$25K you won't! That'll put it squarely in Lotus Elise price range, $45K+


As for names, keeping with the themes of "must start with C" and "must be a pepper" how about Chipotle? That's the big buzzword lately...everybody's gotta have a Chipotle-something, why not Porsche? Or if you like the "must be a lizard" theme better, how about Chuckwalla, Chameleon, or even the Jesus Christ Lizard?!

Aside: actually, it cracks me up, the Cayman owners that refer to their cars as Crocs...the true croc-related lizard they're thinking of is the CAIMAN. The REAL CAYMAN Lizard is not related to crocs and is more of an iguana than anything.
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