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need PICS--where to install my MBC?

 
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pettybird  



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: need PICS--where to install my MBC? Reply with quote

Smoothie I saw that you had posted them a couple years back but the links are dead.

How do you install one without cutting anything?


Thanks again,

Doug
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out Rasta's MBC installation on Shaggy:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=211110#211110

Here's another good thread on the subject:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=168422

BTW, using search will return a lot of good results
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to add a boost gauge first!
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's only one easy way to install a boost controller without cutting anything. You need to find a boost source (like from under the boost cutoff switch, illustrated HERE) and route it to the vent at the top of the wastegate. The vent is a threaded fitting that can be replaced with a hose barb.

You then add a simple pressure regulator in the new line. . .piping boost into the top of the wastegate counteracts the pressure from the control line, which is what opens the wastegate. Another bonus. . .if this system fails, you go back to stock boost. If something on my setup let go, I would end up with overboost.

My setup was easy to do, but if I had it to do again, I would use the vent method (especially since I had the wastegate in my hand during turbo R&R).

Oh, and +10 to the gauge. . .you don't want to guess on this.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a Turbonetics controller and an Auto Meter gauge coming from Summit Racing tomorrow
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I guess you are going to be cutting something!
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do know that a VDO boost gauge just pops in where the clock goes right?
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't find the VDO boost/vac gauge at first... the AM gauge is a 30in/hg-20psi gauge which seemed handier than the 25psi unit from vdo found AFTER I ordered... it's a 2 1/16 gauge, too, so it should install the same way.


the controller is a simple MBC. Are you saying that it won't work on the vent line like you described?

it would be 10000000% easier to just cut the stupid WG line in half though, wouldn't it?
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, actually, it probably would. A cheap air regulator works as well.

The one rub, though. . .you won't be doing anything to that vent without removing the wastegate, unless you're Elasticman.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
unless you're Elasticman.



at 6'3" and 290, no.
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