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TINMAN  



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Speedometer not Registering? Reply with quote

In my 1980 924, the speedometer wont register at any speed whatsoever. has anyone else come across this problem? and were you able to fix it?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a mechanical speedo so either your cable has snapped or is not connected or one of the drive gears in the speedo is stripped (less likely). Unscrew the cable at the back of the speedo take it for a drive and see if the cable is turning.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also possible that it's not engaged at the LF hub - it connects into a square drive in the grease cap, and should be secured by a circlip and sealed with RTV against water. You should be able to see it if you remove the wheel or the center cap.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's also a mileage counter box on the '80 (well, on US spec. anyway) located deep on the driver's side below the intake manifold that the speedo cable runs to from the front wheel. These are made of plastic and mine broke on the mounting point and broke the collar the cable screws into, letting the cable slip out. You can bypass this by going to a single cable or find a used box, if that's the problem.

The counter box is part of the emmission controls and is what activates the OXY light on your instrument panel when it's time to change the oxygen sensor. There is a reset button on the box to make the light go off.
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Chrenan  



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did what D Hook is suggesting with my 1980, when the cable snapped I swapped in the cheaper single cable and eliminated the mileage counter box. I'll just have to remember to change the OXY sensor myself every 30,000 miles
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked this up and read about some small gear that frequently got stripped or disconnected in the speedometer or odometer but i thought i was looking at 600 bucks for a new one.... a new speedo i mean

But Ill try checking the cables to see if ones snapped or been disconnected. that should be alot cheaper to replace

Thanks for the help guys. i had no idea about the oxy sensor milage box
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the 'small gear' you're refering to only affects the odo counter. Your problem is more likely the cable.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well... bump for one. thought i had things fixed but i guess not.

it turns out the cable was just disconnected. so after about near pulling the entire dash apart(because the speedo is located above the steering column and i couldnt get to it) i was able to hook it up and hit the highway. but i dont know why but it wont register past 70 mph, and i knooooooooow i was doing more than that. what gives??
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it read correctly at other speeds or does it always read low? It may be that the speedo gearing isn't correct for your set-up (wheel size, diff ratio, etc).

How fast do you think you were going...? It can be pretty difficult to gauge speeds above about 50 mph just bt 'feel'. What revs were you pulling?
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Smoothie  



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking a heat-related problem with the speedo itself. One of mine does this - the needle goes up to, then sticks at about 35 mph, but only in the heat, when the car's been sitting in the sun. In cooler temps, winter, etc., it works fine. -So yours' may be doing the same thing, but sticking at a higher speed. If so, you should find it works better in cooler temperatures.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And should worse come to worse, there are certified VDO places that recondition speedos for under a hundred, so you can put that 600 out of your mind.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedo heads come up all the time on EBay - ~£10 (<US$25)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also, you could pull the speedo and attach a drill to the input and try it (seem to remember you need the drill in reverse) you should easily get up to 80 by this method, so it might help in checking that the speedo is the prob not the car
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - use a medium-size square-drive bit in the drill and run it in reverse at approx. 1100-1300 rpm. (I used a 700 rpm drill on mine and that drove the speedo at about 48-49 mph.)

-Then if it still sticks at 70, put it in a refrigerator for a while, and then try again.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...then, build a refigeration plant into your car that comes in at, say, 55 mph so that it's nice and cold by the time you get to 70 and your speedo will work. Easy!
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