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How to quiet a BOV?

 
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-nick  



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject: How to quiet a BOV? Reply with quote

It sounded cool the first few times, now it's just loud and obnoxious

I'm running it open to atmosphere. Plumbing it to recirculate would be a really big pita. What other option is there to quiet it down?

I'm running a Forge Motorsports valve that you can see here:


It doesn't have a horn or any other sound-increasing gizmos. It's just plain old loud.

ps- at idle I have positive pressure coming out of it - telling me that the turbo is pushing more air than atmospheric even at ~1100 rpm. Is this normal?

nick
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OutOfTheBox  



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stick a sock in a coke can and away you go

sound is high frequency

high frequency = very directional & bounce off hard stuff.

turn the dump the other way, make whatever comes out hit a soft something.

sponge would be better than an airfilter
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: How to quiet a BOV? Reply with quote

-nick wrote:
It sounded cool the first few times, now it's just loud and obnoxious

I'm running it open to atmosphere. Plumbing it to recirculate would be a really big pita. What other option is there to quiet it down?

I'm running a Forge Motorsports valve that you can see here:


It doesn't have a horn or any other sound-increasing gizmos. It's just plain old loud.



You can either recirculate it into the intake or you can do what I am goint to do and build some sort of "muffler" for it. You don't know what load is until you've heard mine!!

[quote]ps- at idle I have positive pressure coming out of it - telling me that the turbo is pushing more air than atmospheric even at ~1100 rpm. Is this normal?
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Is this a bad thing!?

Todd
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RIPDOTCOM  



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

best way is to recirculate or buy a quieter bov
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick,

It seems you have a recirculating type of BOV. I believe these will allow recirc under low load conditions, clamping shut once the boost rises sufficiently. You need to either plumb it in or change it to an atmos dump type.
I am thinking of fitting a re circ type to my racer, but i'm going to speak to Bailey motorsport tomorrow to get some advice.

Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an engine... WONDERFUL
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This actually is bypass valve not BOV indeed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raceboy wrote:
This actually is bypass valve not BOV indeed.


Don't they both function the same? Difference is one is plumbed back to the intake and the other to the atmosphere?

Todd
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Mr_Bob  



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put a pcv filter on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite your unnatural love for carburetors, this is actually a good idea Cheers!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if you even put a pipe on the end put a bend in it and vent it down out the bottom of the engine compartment, you could effectively change the frequency and dampen the noise a bit......kind of like long straight pipes on an exhaust.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solved

With some help from Mike Lombardi @ Forge Motorsports (great guy!). He told me that facing the valve in the stock direction makes a higher pitched sound than if you simply swap the inlet/outlet sides.

I made the change, and also stuffed a clean shop rag into a cheap breather filter that the outlet is plumbed into. Now I just get a very faint, and very acceptable, "pshh" as opposed to the mind-jarring "PSSTTT" that would echo off houses on residential streets!

Not a boost spike to be found even with the rag damping the sound.
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