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[Rasta Monsta]

[Fifty50Plus]

Hmmm.... I've got three 931's with 0 HP. What am I doing wrong? Oh, I know. I'm not spending any money on them while they grow in value
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1979 924 NA race car
1982 924 NA race car - Sold
1982 924 Turbo almost a PoS
1981 924 Turbo a real PoS, new engine
1982 924 Turbo nice body, blown engine
1972 911 E race car - going to Vintage
Various 944s to become IT-S race car

[gml]

Thanks again for all your feedback. My overall sense is that this car is basically worth under $2K based on having low rust, and the fact that it runs and drives is essentially luck — maybe a couple of things were fixed to make it run, but there are many other problems that need to be addressed quickly.

I am taking the advice of holding out for a better car seriously, but another factor is that personally, this is probably the best time in my life to dive into this hobby, and if I don't act soon then I won't have the time to research and obsess like I am doing now... Yes, this is a bit melodramatic but its the reason I keep pressing the subject.

Let's say in theory I could convince the seller its only worth $2K CAD, is it worth it? My thinking is that since it already runs, it will be a big project, but achievable it seems. Or... is there too much work to do for someone with currently low skill?

[D Hook]

The time to do the research is now, before you make an offer. That way, when he rejects the low offer, you'll have a back up plan to look at another car and can easily walk away from this one.

Under 2k is much more sane, as long as you're willing to learn body work, electrical work and mechanical work and aren't afraid to spend money. As they say, there's no such thing as a cheap Porsche.

Good luck.
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'80 924 n/a SOLD

[Fasteddie313]

[gml]

Fasteddie313, I haven't seen the car in person yet. In the listing seller wrote "minimal rust", we will see if that's true. Seller posted only a couple of images showing the body but it looks quite clean and rust free overall.

I am seeing the car tomorrow. I will be sure to check for a rusty battery tray, as well as the floorboards, and as much of the car I can lay eyes on.

[jacobroufa]

[Rasta Monsta]

Actually I didn't feel I had bad luck with my 931. On the contrary, it was an awesome build (aside from a cam failure) that drove great. It went from Oregon to Laguna Seca multiple times, as well as San Diego and Joshua Tree without missing a beat. I drove the wheels off it, and it embarrassed "better" cars on the race track and on the road. It was a rock solid car that was fast, fun, and reliable. As an added bonus, it ended up selling for ten grand. Not bad for a modified and far from perfect 924.

My only point is that decent 2.5 cars are within "new guy's" financial reach and should be considered. They are simply much better cars, IMO.

Like I said, take it from someone with actual experience with both platforms...my Turbo 2.5 beats my beloved Shaggy in every important category (except that badass paint job and pasha seats...oh well, the white car has power sport seats...could be worse).


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Toofah King Bad

• WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3

[gml]

Saw the car today. Unfortunately did not get to test drive it but got a pretty good look at the engine, left side, and interior. Right side was mostly blocked by a snow bank. Gonna do a much better inspection next time when I can test it out.

Just so the 924board can rest at ease, my maximum is $3000, but I'm going to see what happens by starting at $2k. After this post I'm curious to get all your thoughts after this post, maybe its not even worth that. Didn't even get to talk to the seller himself today (just the dad...) so I don't know how that's going to play out, but worth a shot I hope.

As far as rust goes, the battery tray is rusted to hell but no holes. Fair bit of corrosion on various parts of the engine. Lots of little rust spots at various places on the body, repainted front left panel, some cracks here and there.

Interior wiring is a disaster, apparently previous owner did some really sketchy stereo wiring and the father just disconnected it for safety reasons. It will need a new center console as the ashtray is broken off as is the plastic covering the passenger side of the center console. Everything above the driver and passenger's feet is gone. But... only a single crack on the dash, the doors look great, rear seats are mint. Front seats have a couple of very obvious medium sized rips.

There's a couple of weird things going on in the engine (picture attached) like a golf tee plugging into one end of a cable, a cut hose, but the rubber lines felt pretty supple and intact.

jacobroufa, despite agreeing that I should not buy this car you have also convinced me that I should pursue this car! Lots of people by now have thoroughly convinced me this car is way overpriced, so now my only question is, how much is it actually worth? Once I finally get to talk to the seller my plan is to convince him of its true value and pay a lot closer to that. I have no interest in modern Porsches, so a Boxster is out of the question, I'd rather just save that money.

Rasta, I'm impressed with your persistence for 931 advocacy. When this deal inevitably falls through I will of course keep an eye out for any 931s that are within reach.

The engine, in higher res

[Cedric]

How bad was the wiring under the dash? After my first 924 owned by enthusiastic youth i that installed stereo and alarm etc i would never by a car with that state of wiring again. A source of eternal hate 😂
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1980 924 Turbo
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[D Hook]

Did you take pictures of the rest of the car or just the engine bay?
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'80 924 n/a SOLD

[gml]

I wasn't sure how to post a bunch of photos at once but here is a gallery of photos I took. These are essentially the majority of the imperfections, wiring mess, and rust that I noticed during this somewhat awkward visit. Hope to see it again soon but with the seller himself.

https://imgur.com/a/xVHyDay

[Fasteddie313]

That’s nowhere near as bad as I have been imagining, other than the battery box..

I wouldn’t worry about the rust on such things as the brake booster and rear suspension components.. No big deal..

But.. That battery box..
You should plan on a major surgery/project there..
I almost guarantee it’ll leak water onto the passenger floorboard...
Or you could just clean it up the best you can and por15 it, and keep it out of the rain..

Those vacuum lines are 100% toast.. Don’t be fooled, they ALL need to be replaced.. Every one of those cloth braided hoses are toast.. (other than the injector lines)
No big deal though.. Forget all the plastic connections between them, replace it all with new rubber/silicone or whatever, replace any/all plastic Tees in them..
Pretty cheap to do..

The one with the plug, idk where it goes but it can be figured out pretty easily..

Wiring looks like mostly radio related stuff..

Overall looks better than I expected..
Other than that battery box..


LOVE the metal badges on the back, rather than the stickers on later models..
Too bad it doesn’t have chrome trim..
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80 Turbo - Slightly Modified

[gml]

Thanks for the thoughts Eddie!

Totally agree, I love the 924 metal badge and I wish it had the chrome trim. Are these factory you think or was the chrome trim removed and/or the badge installed?

What do you think is a fair appraisal given what you can see in these pics?