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Transaxle rebuild (leaking) questions

 
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mattaebersold  



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:06 am    Post subject: Transaxle rebuild (leaking) questions Reply with quote

I'll keep this brief. It's the last step in getting my car road worthy

Car: 1980 S1 turbo

- shop took out the transaxle for me. Told me to fix this right cause they only want to do that once haha

- the transaxle has leaks at basically every mating point (diff, housing)

Take a look at these diagrams: https://www.rosepassion.com/en/diagrams-porsche-924-1979-eu-924-turbo-coupe-manual-gearbox-5-speed/clutch-gearbox-parts-115/replacement-transmission-transmission-case-1563/477301191a-p7097-gasket-477301191-7097

My question is:
- if I were to get the o-rings, housing gaskets, etc, would it be as simple as a careful disassembly of the housing and changing the seals? Or would it require disassembling the internals as well?

I think the former (remove housing and swapping gaskets) is something I can take on, but the latter (dismantling internals) is something that I want to steer clear of.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish pics would not disappear off this forum so fast. I understand the old one but the recent!?!

You should be able to do most if not all without too much difficulty. Not sure I would go with the new Curil T2 anymore. It just isn't Curil K2 which has been discontinued. So maybe a Loctite product like what is referenced on the other threads. As an opinion, Curil T2 seems like more runny like an O-ring lubricant but I have only started with my first tube. I digress... here are some links

https://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=308786#308786

Jacob with his Woody project just fixed his

https://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=44552&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120
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mattaebersold  



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike9311 wrote:
I wish pics would not disappear off this forum so fast. I understand the old one but the recent!?!

You should be able to do most if not all without too much difficulty. Not sure I would go with the new Curil T2 anymore. It just isn't Curil K2 which has been discontinued. So maybe a Loctite product like what is referenced on the other threads. As an opinion, Curil T2 seems like more runny like an O-ring lubricant but I have only started with my first tube. I digress... here are some links

https://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=308786#308786

Jacob with his Woody project just fixed his

https://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=44552&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120



Interesting! Looking at the rose passion parts diagram there is a gasket you get between the diff and the transmission, but the transmission housing doesn't look like it has a gasket. This is where that Curil or Locktite come in, yea?

Thank you for this recommend, and the links. I'm reading them now.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, exactly with the Curil. This technique is also used with other VW transmissions
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't done anything with my G31, but I have rebuilt a ZF S5-47 (and actually went back into it recently - I had some growling I thought was due to a bearing going out but may have been due to bearing clearances; also, the output seal wasn't square and had been leaking). For what you describe, I'd agree with Mike that it shouldn't be too difficult. It's mostly a matter of undoing the minimum to get it apart, then making sure everything goes back in the right place. On the ZF, the two main pieces are sealed with anarobic flange sealer, and I used Permatex's version https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ptx-51531. Never so much as drop, and I also used it on the timing cover on one of my Mercedes V8s. To my knowledge, it's the best choice for machined flanges. Going back to the transmission in question, I've found transmissions aren't the horrendously complex thing I once thought. There are gotchas, and some are a lot easier to work on than others, but not that big a hurdle for a dedicated DIY type. Even a full rebuild is actually fairly simple with the right pullers and measuring equipment.
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