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Inner Sill Rust Video - Fix options?

 
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Tiny  



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:47 am    Post subject: Inner Sill Rust Video - Fix options? Reply with quote

Hey Guys,

My O/S Inner Sill is toasted. What are my best economical options to get this fixed?

Here's a video of the area:

https://youtu.be/Eo-jTl9GBg8

Thanks for any help and suggestions. I'm in the UK by the way.
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morghen  



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh my, thats some rust !
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only economical way to fix that is to have a close family member with a serious skill in metalwork and owes you his life!! Rear area is structural and will need to be done correctly if you fancy an mot in the future. It’s not just the rust you can see. It’s the extent of rust you can not see until you dig deeper. You cannot weld rust!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might laugh but in all honesty it would be cheaper to fly here, buy a good shelled 924 and have it sent back to the UK. Cargo is about $2500 to send a car from Canada / USA to the UK and it only cost $500-$750 for really good car / shell. Those are prices in dollars mind. My guess is you will spend more than that to fix what you have and even then you're left with a franken monster that has been chopped, beaten, hacked and welded 9 times over. Then it still needs paint !

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your best option it to part it put and get another car...

That is rust in a complicated area with suspension pickup points etc

If you have the space, time and desire to evolve your skills you could try to fix it yourself. Most of it doesn't need to be pretty, only sturdy. The puter skin needs some skill to get nice, but that part can be outsouced.
If you fail you have lost nothing more than time and investment in tools, you will need a good mig welder, griding tools, some tool to bend metal properly etc.
But there is little economic sense in trying to fix it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank so far for entertaining and insightful suggestions!

I wondered....would it be easier if I got a scrap car like this and removed (assuming it is good/not rusted ) just what is required to fix the inner structurally defected area of mine?

Apologies I'm not an expert with the chasis / bodywork knowledge on this part of a 924.

Would it be slightly simpler if I removed what I needed from something like this?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiny wrote:
Thank so far for entertaining and insightful suggestions!

I wondered....would it be easier if I got a scrap car like this and removed (assuming it is good/not rusted ) just what is required to fix the inner structurally defected area of mine?


Yes, you cut around the VIN number on your car, save that piece, scrap the rest. Then weld it into the junker.

Seriously, it gets a little easier if you have something to cut pieces out from.
But seeing the amount of rust on your car, I doubt that it is the only rust you will find. Its unusual that they rust that badly. Not worth saving IMHO.

I recently "saved" a really badly rusted 924.Most of the right sill and most of the right floor was was replaced. Apart from that I found tons of rust in other places that I did not expect. I found 11 rust holes in the car that I had to repair. I count the right sill and floor as 1... Luckily all suspension points on mine was fine.

What is worth it? Not by a long shot in any conventional sense. But it was a nice learning experience.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiny,

Sorry but that unibody is definitely not worth an attempt to repair. Sell the thing as a parts car & buy something better.

Or if you like wrenching than replace the body. But repairing is not an option.

Good video footage though.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

… to further explain:
When welding a new panel onto an old panel, the old panel has to be sturdy enough to handle the welding or else it just burns through and usually this means removing a lot more metal than you expected to. Even replacing the body would be a bitch because of the rust.

Rust sucks
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you definitely can repair that! The only thing is price effectiveness... 924 is not worth doing such bodyworks, unless it's a Carrera GT or so.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything can be done, but replacing suspension mounts should be done by a shop that knows what they are doing. If you botch it up you end up with the rear wheels sitting at the wrong angle and not be able to adjust them.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy another with a straight body and put the best stuff in/on the straight body..
I think 80 and on bodys are fully galvanized, get one..

I wouldn't sell anything until you had the one done..
I think this is a very easy car to do a body swap on.. Lift the whole shell off the drive train and suspension, interior is relatively easy too..
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