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Han Solo
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:36 am Post subject: |
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I've been watching that car on CL for 6 months since it's local to me. It was originally listed for $9K, and has been slowly reduced to $6K the last time it was on CL. Then he put it on FleaBay with no reserve.
I almost bid on it, except there's nothing particularly noteworthy about it, and it needs body work. The photos don't really show it, but the driver side fender has been crunched, and according to his description, the hood was damaged too. And the driver seat needs repaired. If the car were undamaged, he'd have probably fetched $5-$6K. But there's at least $5K in body work and paint for anyone who wants the car to be right. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Han Solo
Joined: 11 Jul 2015 Posts: 248 Location: Lebanon TN
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:07 am Post subject: |
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ideola wrote: | I've been watching that car on CL for 6 months since it's local to me. It was originally listed for $9K, and has been slowly reduced to $6K the last time it was on CL. Then he put it on FleaBay with no reserve.
I almost bid on it, except there's nothing particularly noteworthy about it, and it needs body work. The photos don't really show it, but the driver side fender has been crunched, and according to his description, the hood was damaged too. And the driver seat needs repaired. If the car were undamaged, he'd have probably fetched $5-$6K. But there's at least $5K in body work and paint for anyone who wants the car to be right. |
I should have known you had a eye on it Agreed on the paint and body. I noted the interior looked pretty decent least the dash cover. Interiors can look good in an ad but smell and feel awful however. _________________ -----HAIRY ANT NEST RACING-----
Collecting, racing and restoring Porsches for fun and negative cash flow.
-----Epic 914 race car build----- http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914-914-6-technical-forum/767721-yet-another-rescue-porsche.html |
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Carrera RSR
Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2309 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:25 am Post subject: |
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UK price expectations are somewhat higher to US values. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-924-Turbo-Appreciating-Asset-/272078834403?hash=item3f59298ae3:g:spEAAOSwZ1lWcV2o However they are far more rare here _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
Now www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=34690
Then www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=31252 |
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Han Solo
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ideola
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Han Solo
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Khal
Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4869 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:29 am Post subject: Re: Current 931 price |
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Han Solo wrote: | Looks like $3651 will get you a decent S2 931. Somewhat disheartening but that's eBay... |
You must bear in mind that US cars were pretty severely detuned and had the styling ruined by the bumpers and side markers.
Also -and this is just a general sense, having lived most of my adult life in a country that not only had "Euro" models but a more "European" attitude towards the car... if such a thing is possible -it seems in the U.S. that the cars were genuinely considered "cheap" and "not real Porsches" and all that.
It seems that were always relatively inexpensive in the U.S. and hence were not taken care of.
Certainly in the U.K. and Germany (and I'm guessing in most other European countries), cars must be kept to a reasonably high standard if you want to use them on the road.
And they were never "cheap".
So, over there, they tend to be in much better condition, generally more well regarded and absolutely better looking and more powerful.
I still have a pretty strong feeling that the values of these cars will rise (they could hardly get any lower ) and there are some hints that they may have already.
But I just can't see that they'll ever be quite as valuable in the U.S. (and Canada, for that matter) as they already are in Europe. _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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jazz guy
Joined: 26 Nov 2002 Posts: 434 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Han Solo wrote: | Although I'd think the OK car has more value... |
Yes, maybe...
BUT there's a good chance you'll spend thousands more getting it up to the condition of the green '81. The '81 looked to have a well above average interior compared to most U.S. cars. The limited slip snail shell is one of the most desirable features of the OK '80 S but also one of the most suspect to need real money. No mention about shifting in the listing. I always assume that the snail shell needs at least a mild rebuild. Before all you snail devotees unload on me about how strong a well maintained snail shell is (and I agree btw), please note Khal's comments below.
How was the new Star Wars movie?
Khal wrote: | -it seems in the U.S. that the cars were genuinely considered "cheap" and "not real Porsches" and all that.
It seems that were always relatively inexpensive in the U.S. and hence were not taken care of.
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Nailed it.
And because of this, the vast majority of U.S. cars are wrecks compared to the 924's bringing good money in Europe.
Hey Khal, not a peep about F1 this past year? Was it because Hamilton had it sewn up early? Lew-is! Lew-is! Lew-is!
C'mon, where's the spirit? Have hope, your boy Vettel and Ferrari look to be even stronger next year. _________________ '81/'81/'82 |
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Khal
Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4869 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:54 am Post subject: |
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jazz guy wrote: | Lew-is! Lew-is! Lew-is!
C'mon, where's the spirit? |
Urgh
Does anyone else feel that the Boxster is suffering the same fate as the toofah?
Relatively cheap. Not overly powerful. Sold in incredible numbers. Not particularly well regarded by the cognoscenti. Perhaps even a bit of a parts-bin special...
But hugely entertaining to drive. And lauded for its exceptional handling. Arguably even somewhat practical. And cheap.
I mean, Boxsters were 40k+ when launched twenty years ago. You can now buy a Boxster here for about seven grand (no doubt cheaper in the U.S.).
I got a weird feeling the day will soon come that you can buy a Boxster cheaper than a toofah turbo... _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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morghen
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 8884 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Khal wrote: | I got a weird feeling the day will soon come that you can buy a Boxster cheaper than a toofah turbo... |
You can today, at least in europe _________________ https://www.the924.com |
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ideola
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:27 am Post subject: |
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IMS failure is killing the value of 986/987. And people complain about the expense of maintaining a 931. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Khal
Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4869 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:37 am Post subject: |
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morghen wrote: | Khal wrote: | I got a weird feeling the day will soon come that you can buy a Boxster cheaper than a toofah turbo... |
You can today, at least in europe |
Ha! Crazy.
You can find a Boxster in the U.S. for maybe €5,500. But you'd be lucky to get more than about €2,300 for a toofah turbo. So there's still a way to go.
But early Boxsters don't seem to be going anywhere but down. And pretty catastrophically so, too, I reckon!
It's not that I think toofah turbos will gain huge amounts of value in the very near future, just that Boxsters will become relatively worthless.
ideola wrote: | IMS failure is killing the value of 986/987. And people complain about the expense of maintaining a 931. |
Yeah, I've heard about that.
But at a certain price point, it becomes a bit like the toofah... it's only a few grand, who cares if it blows up?! Just buy it, put no money into it, and thrash it to death. _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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Paul
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:06 am Post subject: |
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When Christine blew her motor at 89.000, I bought a used low mileage replacement with a warranty for $3500. Installing it was no harder than a 924. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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