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chris79  



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for rear:

I have all this parts except 5, but I think there is some aftermarket similar, not ?
Then I need to buy u-bolts for fix middle of swaybar.

for front:

I have all bolts except vertical bars for fix middle of swaybar to chassis.
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chris79  



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is not possible to install rear sway bar without change camber Bolt with longer version of this Bolt (part n.5) ?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope.
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chris79  



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My front sway is on the right in photo:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/736908-need-help-identifying-924-front-sway-early-944-front-sway-bar.html

can anyone help me for installation with some pics ?
thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a diagram buried in the PET catalog:

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/usa/924_USA_76_79_KATALOG.pdf

and here's some info that might help:

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=373505

Basically the main bushing carriers bolt directly to the frame ahead of the engine and the drop links bolt to the holes along the leading edge of the control arms.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks for links, but I don't found pics for installation of middle bolts of this sway bars .
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe share a picture of your frame between the steering rack and the radiator so we can show you where they go?

Its pretty obvious on mine, but maybe your car doesn't have them, in which case you'll get to add them somehow.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for front my early 924 have two long bolts fixed to chassis, I have no problems.

For rear I buyed this parts:

http://www.ebay.it/itm/261733437125?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=560605954413&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

and long eccentric bolt for replace standard parts. But how can I keep the same settings for rear camber ?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't loosen the other fasteners, just the ones you have to replace and the adjustment should stay.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completed installation of sway bar early version 1979.

For rear I replaced eccentric bolts with longer eccentric bolts and camber don't change. For fix sway to chassis I used two resistant u-bolt .

For front the bolts for fix sway are on chassis on early 924. For fix sway on swinging arm, standard 924 have no hole for insert sway supports, then I installed on swinging arm two resistant metal plates with a hole at the end.

Tomorrow I try to post my photos.


I test my car and it 's very improved! The roll is almost non-existent and it seems to have sport shock absorbers.

In future the next step could be lower car 20mm with sport springs and standard shocks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought, definitely post some pics of your swap.

As you might have noticed, sometimes people do swaps and stuff and don't document it well. Then it's hard for newcomers to do the same swap and it pisses other people off when you ask a million questions about what works and what doesn't.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure! Today I publish my photos, it can be useful for install sway bar in early 924, on the forum I have not found exact pictures and description.

If I would like install lowering spring only 20mm I have to regulate camber or with this small change the setting of camber remains in permitted tolerance?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sway Bars early version '77 - '79:




Front installation:

my personal solution for fix sides of sway bars, because I have not swinging arm for install sway:



for fix middle of sway there are two long bolts on chassis:





Rear:

replace eccentric bolts with longer eccentric bolts:



buy a resistant u-bolt for fix to chassis and other metallic plates for fix sway to u-bolts:






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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy new front a arms with the mount!!! Don't use that shit to mount the sway bar!!!
Rear bar need to sit above exhaust, rotate the torsion bar mounts up and move the mounts out to the next flat section of the bar
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That front solution will rattle and break within 5km.
The rear solution might actually last a bit more.

Get front a-arms with the right mounts, do a good job securing the upper mounts to the chassis.
Get the complete rear assy from another 924 with sway bars and replace it into your car.


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