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Mike9311
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| Power Tryp wrote: | Sorry, the engine code is B234F.
I wish I had a head gasket to compare to, and then something creative might have to happen for cooking purposes. |
yep thats the one. Just missed out on one on Ebay 
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Power Tryp wrote: | | A Volvo B123 head fits a Pinto engine almost perfectly. I haven't seen anything with cooling passages and bolt spacing suited for our engines. |
As I recall, the Volvo head was courageously modified... Like whacking off the end of the head and welding on a fabbed piece to suit the toofah block.
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Power Tryp wrote: | | A Volvo B123 head fits a Pinto engine almost perfectly. I haven't seen anything with cooling passages and bolt spacing suited for our engines. |
As I recall, the Volvo head was courageously modified... Like whacking off the end of the head and welding on a fabbed piece to suit the toofah block. |
The Ford guys are right there too
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-B234f-CONVERTED-Ford-2-3-Turbo-16v-SVO-XR4Ti-2300-/160519943726?hash=item255fbbf62e:g:N04AAMXQ9MVRf0Az&vxp=mtr
Craziness...
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Fasteddie313
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| Mike9311 wrote: |
yep thats the one. Just missed out on one on Ebay |
Hey, I have access to a 92 volvo 244 with an inline/slant 4 that I think is that "red block" engine.. The same car I got my ABS 4 pot front calipers off of..
If you could help me positivly identify the head as the one you want I'm pretty sure I could get the head off of it for a song..
Let me know how to make sure it's the right one, and how cheap is cheap..
I bet I can get the head $50 if not $30 or free..
There is also another volvo there that is later mid 90's iirc.. Didn't look at it too close..
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| Fasteddie313 wrote: | | Mike9311 wrote: |
yep thats the one. Just missed out on one on Ebay |
Hey, I have access to a 92 volvo 244 with an inline/slant 4 that I think is that "red block" engine.. The same car I got my ABS 4 pot front calipers off of..
If you could help me positivly identify the head as the one you want I'm pretty sure I could get the head off of it for a song..
Let me know how to make sure it's the right one, and how cheap is cheap..
I bet I can get the head $50 if not $30 or free..
There is also another volvo there that is later mid 90's iirc.. Didn't look at it too close.. |
Ill get you some pictures
Here they are. Don't think the S40 has this head (still checking)
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Check this out
http://www.ford-wiki.com/wiki/Volvo_Redblock_Engine
I will front the money for this head, if you get it that cheap (and of course the shipping$$). Just to get the answers we need. The above pictures are of a B234 as far as I trust the ebay source. This redblock setup you have access to might be different? But if its 16v, like I said, for that price I will buy that 'answer'
Check this out...love how nobody can nail down if it was cosworth or porsche when comparing the two links
http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/Volvo_Redblock_Engine
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Cedric
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, fellow Swedish 924 enthusiast gegge should have thought of this, i hope he reads here and will dive in to the discussion. Otherwise ill ask him 
If it fits ill fill up a container and ship it over, they are plentiful here in Sweden, lots of speed parts aswell. The Volvo red block is the Swedish version of the small block v8
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Cédric wrote: | Hmm, fellow Swedish 924 enthusiast gegge should have thought of this, i hope he reads here and will dive in to the discussion. Otherwise ill ask him
If it fits ill fill up a container and ship it over, they are plentiful here in Sweden, lots of speed parts aswell. The Volvo red block is the Swedish version of the small block v8 |
Swedish V8  I did get that impression We might have to do that
...gegge and I have been going back and forth on PM over a two valve version not the 16V. Would be cool if he entered the fray here
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Fasteddie313
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:49 am Post subject: |
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That 244 had a sohc head.. The other 2 volvos are gone..
Scored the plate of aluminum for that FD adapter sandwich though..
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Cedric
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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The 16v came with the 740 and then 940. These engines are very common in rally cross, drag racing, street cars, track racing etc, so ere is so much knowledge around these engines..
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Funny how similar this looks
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Close to finishing this up. Needed to prep a base plate and some uprights on a surface grinder to have them all equal in length. The oil feed hole in the mount will be "thread milled" so I can control the tread fit precisely. Tapping almost always is loose unless you use special taps. Then I can test fit the mount
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Project idea: redesign of the rear water flange to increase flow through the cylinder head...
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Project idea: redesign of the rear water flange to increase flow through the cylinder head... |
I will absolutely look into that.
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Update on the mount: Needs to be deburred/cleaned up and could be polished if desired. The code needs to be adjusted to get rid of faceting to smooth out the profile but its done for testing. The oil feed fitting screws in real nice. Might post a pic/vid of that process
A finished mount weighs in at less than 400g while a stock iron is at 1157g
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