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KDJones2000
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 Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:23 pm Post subject: How to ruin your 24 hour endurance race.... |
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That's what happens when you take a 944 engine, mis-time the lower balance shaft and take that to it's ultimate conclusion. This is after 2 hours of run time - the oil pickup tube reinforcement cracked, the tie-in to the oil drain tube cracked, and eventually the pickup tube cracked near its mounting point.
We got all of 1 hour of race time in before this happened. At least we get a discount for the next race 
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924RACR
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Oh, wow, does that ever blow (no pun intended)... my condolences...
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morghen
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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wow ! 
Never seen one go like that.
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Ooops.
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KDJones2000
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Yep, oooops. I did the balance shafts on my Turbo car back about 10 years ago, and of course after that I 'knew everything', so didn't reverify with the manual on which key to put the gear on.
I figured that since this was a production situation that they would make it so that things would actually make sense - the stamped "O" should show in the opening on the thrust washer, and that they would put the pointer in the correct place for both shafts.
NOT! Stoooopid German Engineering.....
New engine is in the car since last weekend - let's hope that it lasts longer than the last one.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Toofahs are jinxed in Arizona, I'm convinced~!
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KDJones2000
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:41 am Post subject: |
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The weird thing about it was that you couldn't tell at all from the engine that the balance shafts were out of time.
I have had them 1 tooth off before, and you can notice that at higher RPM. If the lower balance shaft is installed using the wrong keyway they are ~170 degrees off, and the engine idled fine and rev'ed just fine...
Live and learn.
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Rasta Monsta
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Still interested in a seat this fall, should one come open! I got the enduro fever. . .nothing more awesome than racing at night.
Oh, and speaking of live and learn? My oil pressure light is wired to a huge 2.5 inch LED array in the middle of the dash. No missing it.
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emoore924
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| As old Hobbsie would say, it looks like it went Kablammo. |
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KDJones2000
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | Still interested in a seat this fall, should one come open! I got the enduro fever. . .nothing more awesome than racing at night.
Oh, and speaking of live and learn? My oil pressure light is wired to a huge 2.5 inch LED array in the middle of the dash. No missing it. |
Why aren't you running Vegas then? It's all at night on the Roval.
The only HUGE problem is that it's in August. Sorry by Vegas is HOT, not that much different than Phoenix.
Next night race for us will be Buttonwillow next year, at least I hope. Autoclub Speedway is coming up in Oct. but that's only a Double 7, and all of the guys who lost out on Buttonwillow are making up for that here.
I am thinking of running the Chumpcar chumpionship race in Nov. in Vegas, but this one is on the outside road course. I might need a driver for that one, Rasta...
Oh, and regarding the oil pressure: The driver noticed it immediately when we lost all oil pressure, but didn't believe his eyes or something. I have 2 oil pressure idiot lights in addition to the gauge, but those didn't go off for some reason - maybe a wiring issue that I need to figure out.
Any way, he ended up driving the car about 2 miles on the track, back to the pits with no oil pressure. The rod went shortly after that. I give that engine credit for surviving as long as it did. |
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Rasta Monsta
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Not healed up by August. November, on the other hand. . .
Does this car have the 22 gallon tank upgrade?
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KDJones2000
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I was thinking about doing that to the car, but gave up when I was hanging off of the gas tank with all of my weight and the darned thing didn't move a micron when I tried to get it out.
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Mars478
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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My friend had a similar failure to his 944 this weekend. Interesting to see it taken apart, we pulled the engine on his but haven't disassembled it yet.
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Fasteddie313
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:27 am Post subject: |
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now that's a properly blown engine...
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KDJones2000
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Fasteddie313 wrote: | | now that's a properly blown engine... |
Thank You, Thank you very much....
The new engine is in and running fine. Next race is Autoclub Speedway in October
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