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Differance GT - GTS fenders ?

 
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Dutch924-racer  



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Differance GT - GTS fenders ? Reply with quote

Is there any differance between the GT and the GTS rear fenders ?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the answear is Yes.
Look at pictures:









Look how much taller GTS flare is. I would say about 3 cm taller.
Wider probably.
I remember that there was a dispute here or on rennlist that the front fenders are different too.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe its not 30mm but 20mm for sure.

I have the GTS flares and they sit ~10mm under the reflect line while the CGT flares sit ~30mm under the reflect line
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the NNT 126W car a real GTS? it has some questionable things....strange side marker, most GTS don't have a side marker...particularly like that one...rear spoiler is wrong for a GTS....regular roll up windows?? I've seen some variations of GTS' before but that one looks odd.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The second picture/ Mittelmotor 924 is not GTS but a converted GT.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GTS rear spoiler looks complety different. One piece and at least 1" taller .

To answer your question: the GTS is wider and sits lower.

Search and you will find a previous post. Think there were pictures from the 911 magazine???
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pcelenta wrote:
is the NNT 126W car a real GTS? it has some questionable things....strange side marker, most GTS don't have a side marker...particularly like that one...rear spoiler is wrong for a GTS....regular roll up windows?? I've seen some variations of GTS' before but that one looks odd.


NNT is a real GTS and owned by the PCGB 924 Carrera GT registrar who knows his onions when it comes to GT/GTS. That said is does have some differences including your observations plus electric mirrors, comfort interior etc. Many GTS' have customer ordered differences.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Good point. These were custom built to order. Ive seen some with low cut rear flares like a gt...some with a fender side marker. Also cars were often sent back to the factory for upgrades.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The second picture/ Mittelmotor 924 is not GTS but a converted GT"
Yes, I've showed it as a CGT picture. Sorry I didn't wrote what I ment under the pics.

The Original ? :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ldcalh9w7xkm1w/all50-s.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbzi2l0z83ij367/carrera-s-gts.jpg

What i believe all the GTS had bigger flares from factory.
It could be changed at the cars life due to damage or something and replaced with CGT flares.

A pic of CGTS from Porsche museum
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5l5bv92fsla2r5/DSC00692.JPG

So i believe they restored it to the Factory original condition.

Bels CGTS Original enought?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f33cif2pkly8p2d/924_GTS_5-L.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nbn8x43u30eq4bk/19.jpg

A picture from mytransaxle.de taken at CGT treffen 2011, CGT and CGTS side by side
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v5vt5ca4xio141f/DSCN0343_238.JPG

and one more GTS:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7e2s6mqpmdiref0/6113162030_919734e365_o.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sgd4xpkzh8j4i64/6113160242_b6851f807f_o.jpg
vs:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7j84d3echukwvv/IMG_5960.JPG
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recognise a few photos there! img doesn't seem to work with drop box then!!

Love to see a GT and GTS in a proper photoshoot to see clearly the differences
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrera RSR wrote:
Recognise a few photos there! img doesn't seem to work with drop box then!!


Yes Carrera RSR as I remember some of those were linked by You somwhere maybe in "Ultimate" topic. I collect anything that I Can find about those cars.
I hate those days when You find great pics want to see them again after a while and You see it's not there
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi guys,
I've been to Porsche Museum and Transaxle Treffen lately
I've managed to check the Museums CGTS and from my measures it's seems that the CGTS had a wider front fenders too.
It's about 1,5-2cm wider than the 944Turbo Cup front fender.
So maybe some one can check if CGT shares the same front fender ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the original Porsche 924 Carrera GTS manual, the GTS has front wings (translation for the German word) that are 10mm wider than the GT. But the rears are the same width. It shows 1745 mm width front and 1735 mm width rear.

This is directly out of the factory GTS manual.

"der GTS wurde an den Vorderkotflugeln um 10 mm verbreitert gegenuber dem CARRERA GT"

Translation:
The GTS was on the front wings to 10 mm wider than the Carrera GT

"Die Gesamtbreite betragt" vorn 1745 mm
hinten 1735 mm

Translation:

The overall width is front 1745 mm
rear 1735 mm

"Die vorderen Kotflugel und die StoBstange ist wie am CARRERA GT ungeschraubt"

Translation:

The front wings and fenders are like the CARRERA GT attached with screws

The Carrera GT is 1735 mm front and rear.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so plus 5mm on each front fender for a total of 10mm??
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