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musicalannette
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 413 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: 924 brakes |
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self adjusting rear drums?
has anyone ever seen them?
do they use the same disposable brake components? by that I mean shoes?
I am sure the easy way to get self a adjusting set-up at the rear and the most common are to fit 5 lug wheels, but to me, the 924 looks just wrong if there not the 4 lugs wheel i have at the moment, so I want to keep them.
924 turbo's or the lattice wheels just dont appeal to me sadly.
if there not too costly, it would make life simpler if the rears were not a pre-war self adjusting setup. _________________ I KNEW white wall tyres were invented by Americans .....just not at Boeing.... to be fitted on the 737..... |
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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This has been discussed at length. Apparently the parts are described in parts diagrams, but nobody here has ever seen them.
Search and you'll find the answers, as well as suggestions on how to put an auto adjusting system on.
The normal course of action is to put on 5-lugs. _________________ 78 924 NA
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| !tom wrote: | | This has been discussed at length. |
Sucked in! _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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musicalannette
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 413 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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ahh i have tried a search or two but didnt have any luck, will try more thanks, i really dont like the look of any 5 lug wheels unless its a on a CGT with cookie cutters, about the best 5 lug car ive seen, but the 924 doesnt need any more grip and ive rebuilt the brakes, thanks for the reply. _________________ I KNEW white wall tyres were invented by Americans .....just not at Boeing.... to be fitted on the 737..... |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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musicalannette
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 413 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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ok, ok, while am at it cut two holes in the floor and use my feet instead of rear brakes alltogether. _________________ I KNEW white wall tyres were invented by Americans .....just not at Boeing.... to be fitted on the 737..... |
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:08 am Post subject: |
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I've never been convinced by the self-adjusting mechansims on drum brakes.
I'd stick with the manual adjusters. At least that way you can do them up just right and know they're done. _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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musicalannette
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 413 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:36 am Post subject: |
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they worked fine on the capri i had for 10 years. dont know what else to say. perhaps its the salty air? _________________ I KNEW white wall tyres were invented by Americans .....just not at Boeing.... to be fitted on the 737..... |
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SlayerSST
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:18 am Post subject: |
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| SlayerSST wrote: | | And one still wonders what the hell Porsche was thinking when they decided to put drum brakes as standard. |
It was a cheap, economy car so this is SOP.
Performance was something that Porsche added. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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musicalannette
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 413 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:51 am Post subject: |
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It all started with the beetle redesign in 67.........Capri had a drum brakes..... _________________ I KNEW white wall tyres were invented by Americans .....just not at Boeing.... to be fitted on the 737..... |
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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But the Capri was never a sportscar.
Live rear axle, cart spring suspension...!  _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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scm924s
Joined: 22 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Gloucester UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike924 wrote: | Live rear axle, cart spring suspension...!  |
Better not tell the owner of an XK Jag/Healey/ MG/Corvette that this set up means it's not a sports car  _________________ 1984 n/a Ruby Red Metallic
1988 924S Guards red- sold
1986 924S Guards Red - sold
1984 n/a Black - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#1 - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#2- sold
1977 Martini - sold |
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:07 am Post subject: |
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OK, point taken.
One shouldn't get picky about the specific technology used (e.g. water cooling/air cooling, suspension set ups, carbs/injection, front engine/rear engine, etc, etc)
What matters is how it all works as a whole; and the 924, as a package, works very well indeed (as we all know). _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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musicalannette
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 413 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yous see, im not knocking porshe, vw or any make, but why o why would you redesign a beetle after all those years in 67. I think it had something to do with the Mustang (and the european equivalent Escort/Capri), In some ways the boot is on the other foot with the niche market that the merc a class and audi a2 found, ford followed suit with the fusion, Cmax and renault with the scenic etc, etc.
One thing I do like are the air vents round the inside of the boot and the doors to allow the rear arches to breathe a bit (something that has been deliberately kept away from things like the a class and virtually all other high volume cars in an attempt to keep sales up). Once you see the 924 you realise it would double or treble the life expectancy of any steel based vehicle for next to no cost, the zincoxide electrolpating would be much more expensive.
You notice things that are deliberate by the car manufacturers when you own a brand new defender and the electroplating starts to rust exactly at the three year point when the waranty runs out, the ex military 101 forward control electroplating was fine after 30 years. Somethings are design life, some are from niche market, some are parts bin. I could be wrong, but i think the Beetle Irs had its roots in the developement of the 924 and was not a part bin placement.
I wasnt there so I dont know for sure, but the dates add up. It certainly isnt a "beetle" simple solution (unlike the non self adjusting drums). _________________ I KNEW white wall tyres were invented by Americans .....just not at Boeing.... to be fitted on the 737..... |
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