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musicalannette  



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: 924 brakes Reply with quote

self adjusting rear drums?

has anyone ever seen them?

do they use the same disposable brake components? by that I mean shoes?

I am sure the easy way to get self a adjusting set-up at the rear and the most common are to fit 5 lug wheels, but to me, the 924 looks just wrong if there not the 4 lugs wheel i have at the moment, so I want to keep them.
924 turbo's or the lattice wheels just dont appeal to me sadly.

if there not too costly, it would make life simpler if the rears were not a pre-war self adjusting setup.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been discussed at length. Apparently the parts are described in parts diagrams, but nobody here has ever seen them.

Search and you'll find the answers, as well as suggestions on how to put an auto adjusting system on.

The normal course of action is to put on 5-lugs.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

!tom wrote:
This has been discussed at length.


Sucked in!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh i have tried a search or two but didnt have any luck, will try more thanks, i really dont like the look of any 5 lug wheels unless its a on a CGT with cookie cutters, about the best 5 lug car ive seen, but the 924 doesnt need any more grip and ive rebuilt the brakes, thanks for the reply.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Why can't you stick them on with some Clag Glue, a Paddle Pop Stick and some Jabberwocky wishes?

It's so easy?!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, ok, while am at it cut two holes in the floor and use my feet instead of rear brakes alltogether.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never been convinced by the self-adjusting mechansims on drum brakes.

I'd stick with the manual adjusters. At least that way you can do them up just right and know they're done.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they worked fine on the capri i had for 10 years. dont know what else to say. perhaps its the salty air?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlayerSST wrote:
And one still wonders what the hell Porsche was thinking when they decided to put drum brakes as standard.


It was a cheap, economy car so this is SOP.

Performance was something that Porsche added.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all started with the beetle redesign in 67.........Capri had a drum brakes.....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the Capri was never a sportscar.

Live rear axle, cart spring suspension...!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike924 wrote:
Live rear axle, cart spring suspension...!


Better not tell the owner of an XK Jag/Healey/ MG/Corvette that this set up means it's not a sports car
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, point taken.

One shouldn't get picky about the specific technology used (e.g. water cooling/air cooling, suspension set ups, carbs/injection, front engine/rear engine, etc, etc)

What matters is how it all works as a whole; and the 924, as a package, works very well indeed (as we all know).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yous see, im not knocking porshe, vw or any make, but why o why would you redesign a beetle after all those years in 67. I think it had something to do with the Mustang (and the european equivalent Escort/Capri), In some ways the boot is on the other foot with the niche market that the merc a class and audi a2 found, ford followed suit with the fusion, Cmax and renault with the scenic etc, etc.

One thing I do like are the air vents round the inside of the boot and the doors to allow the rear arches to breathe a bit (something that has been deliberately kept away from things like the a class and virtually all other high volume cars in an attempt to keep sales up). Once you see the 924 you realise it would double or treble the life expectancy of any steel based vehicle for next to no cost, the zincoxide electrolpating would be much more expensive.

You notice things that are deliberate by the car manufacturers when you own a brand new defender and the electroplating starts to rust exactly at the three year point when the waranty runs out, the ex military 101 forward control electroplating was fine after 30 years. Somethings are design life, some are from niche market, some are parts bin. I could be wrong, but i think the Beetle Irs had its roots in the developement of the 924 and was not a part bin placement.

I wasnt there so I dont know for sure, but the dates add up. It certainly isnt a "beetle" simple solution (unlike the non self adjusting drums).
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