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Best Hi-Temp paint for exhaust and anyone use the 'wrap'?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:26 am    Post subject: Best Hi-Temp paint for exhaust and anyone use the 'wrap'? Reply with quote

So, Rustolem or VHT or what works best???
I'd like something that will last several years at least without any touch up. I have the stock exhaust with a Bursch cat back on it.

Anyone use a 'wrap' for the exhaust or headers? How did it work for you?
http://www.amazon.com/DEI-010131-Titanium-Exhaust-Wrap/dp/B0039Z1UHA/ref=pd_sbs_auto_2

I'd paint it first and then use the wrap to help keep the engine bay temp down and to try to keep some heat away from the starter and other components.

I like the idea of the wrap over Hi-Temp paint as long as the wrap would stay black and not bake to a whiteish / grayish color.

On Hi-Temp paint, would the black color last longer than silver / white etc?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it isn't stainless steel, then I would have it ceramic coated.

http://www.finishlinecoatings.com does a great job of coating internally and externally with ceramic coatings and they have different finishes available. Rasta and I both have parts on our cars coated by them and they have lived up to the hype so far.

FYI: I melted two polyurethane passenger side control arm bushings before I had the MSDS header coated with their black coating that blocks 70% of the heat. Otherwise I'd have to build some sort of heat shield and hope for the best and given the limited amount of room in that area, that would prove to be extremely difficult.

Wrap tends to cause headers to fail prematurely from the excessive heat and the trapping of moisture against the header. Great for all out racing cars where parts are changed regularly.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is mild steel then also coat with ceramics. Just need to sandblast it prior to it.

I bought a can of Ceracote Titanium and it is applicable with just a paint gun. No need to heat it afterwards but it takes several days to fully cure.

It is durable on turbo exhausts and does not peel off.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: I am using the stock exhaust manifold and pipe Reply with quote

I am using the stock exhaust manifold and pipe with a Bursch cat back on it.
Looking at all the separate pieces of heat shielding that go around the exhaust an dthe condition of the wires that go to the starter had me thinking that the heat wrap would make sense given how everything is crammed in there on that side of the engine.
While I have the manifold and pipe off, I'm going to clean them up and paint them and I was thinking that the wrap would make it a little less heat intense in the engine bay.
Would I get any benefit out of using the wrap?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiat22turbo wrote:
coated with their black coating that blocks 70% of the heat.


Really?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrera RSR wrote:
fiat22turbo wrote:
coated with their black coating that blocks 70% of the heat.


Really?


That's what they said, and it has made a huge difference in the amount of heat under the hood. One could almost change the plug wires or the plugs after a run (if one were so daft). I've also not melted anymore control arm bushings and the coating hasn't changed color, flaked, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the cost for them (http://www.finishlinecoatings.com) to coat the header?
How much was shipping the parts to them? Did you use UPS or ???
How long was the turnaround time on them getting it back to you?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was about $180 and they are local to me, so I just dropped it off and picked it up. Took them a couple of days to do the work.

Reach out to them by phone and they'll give you the heads up on their turn around time, etc.
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