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bear924
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 95 Location: South West Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: Would you class this as a turbo or a Carrera? |
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Hello all,
I was ebaying Porsche the other day and came across this:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330405716970&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
From the description the owner explains that it is a 924 Carrera that was written off and so a 931 shell was purchased and everything retrofitted into the shell. Top marks for the seller explaining everything upfront however it makes me wonder what the car is .. a 931 or a Carrera. |
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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wow, nice looking car, wayyyyy overpriced though, without proof of provenance. No VIN? Who's he kidding? I'll really do a nice job on my 931 Euro CGT clone this spring if I can get that kind of moola! And I'll paint it silver if that helps! _________________ '83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
2004 Winnebago Vectra monster RV
2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Kia Soul
2001 Ford F350 powerstroke |
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:38 am Post subject: |
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And why no engine pics? TMIC is a sure sign of at least maybe a GT~! _________________ '83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
2004 Winnebago Vectra monster RV
2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Kia Soul
2001 Ford F350 powerstroke |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I'd be highly suspicious until I at least saw an engine pic; ultimately need an engine code to verify the claims. Even if it is a real CGT engine, I can't see it being worth $27K -- AUD or USD. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Nein37
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 513 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Its still just a heavily modified 931 in the eyes of collectors and its price would be severely reduced in comparison to an actual CGT.
Having said that, if this car showed up in the US I would be willing, on the spot, to shell out $10,000 for it... $15,000 would probably be my top end though. Still a far cry from this blokes asking price. _________________ 1981 931 CGT replica, OEM CGT intercooler, .8 BAR WG spring, GTS Headlights, Innovative Wide band A/F, A/C delete, 16" Fuchs, Weltmeister 200lb lowering springs, Bilstein HDs front, Koni Sport rears. |
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Nein37
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 513 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ooops... just noticed its RHD. In that case I wouldn't be interested. _________________ 1981 931 CGT replica, OEM CGT intercooler, .8 BAR WG spring, GTS Headlights, Innovative Wide band A/F, A/C delete, 16" Fuchs, Weltmeister 200lb lowering springs, Bilstein HDs front, Koni Sport rears. |
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Paul
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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That car was discussed on this board when it was last for sale 3 years ago. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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Paul
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Carris
Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 109 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah that was my car when last for sale. I didn't have all that much info on it when I sold it. I didn't buy it in victoria, so it hasn't been in victoria its whole life. The rego he quotes was mine, and it was only on that plate for a year so won't tell you much. I seem to remember the engine number is turbo not GT but not totally sure. I don't know who sold the car, but I think it was a NSW/ACT car not hamiltons. _________________ Chris |
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peterld
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 946 Location: Noosa Heads QLD Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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So Chris - the $64 question. How much did you sell it for? _________________ 80/81 932/8 ROW |
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paulsmaroon924
Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Posts: 176 Location: IRELAND
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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i thought all the Carrera Gts were left hookers?
never saw a right hand drive one, sat in Derek Bells car years ago at brooklands, awsome.
the fact is that the only place in the world that that car si worth that moolah is in his sweet dreamy head, its a written off rebody. god know what harm the original took and the parts could all be spurious, nope, not sold on me.
any of us here could build a STUNNER of a CGT replica, intercooler and all for waaayy less cash. |
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v8carreragts
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 665 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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I seem to remember reading that there were 75 RHD CGT's built.
I would think that if the car was done meticulously and all of the original documentation was kept from the old shell it may be worth close to the price of the original. But it doesn't appear that way. It could easily be considered a replica. |
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924OZY
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 71 Location: Gold Coast Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:12 am Post subject: Knob chops |
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Someone said on here it was their old car,
they think it only had a 924 turbo engine no,
the rego quoted was their old rego no,
It wasn't in vic its whole life,
they dont think it was sold by Hamiltons, etc.
Basically it sounds like the guy is full of crap.
Just a replica, and a real good (butt bull) story.
Its also only a Turbo body no. with a sunroof, did any carreras have a sunroof? what about rhd silver ones:roll: _________________ 924 N/A snailshell, superpro linkage bushes, 2.5"exhaust
4.0L ef Fairmont, 3000rpm stall, shift-kit, J3 chip, 3" exhaust, self tuned using tunerpro, soon to be boosted,
expecting 350Kw at wheels at 10psi. |
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Khal
Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4869 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:52 am Post subject: Re: Knob chops |
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924OZY wrote: | Someone said on here it was their old car,
they think it only had a 924 turbo engine no,
the rego quoted was their old rego no,
It wasn't in vic its whole life,
they dont think it was sold by Hamiltons, etc.
Basically it sounds like the guy is full of crap.
Just a replica, and a real good (butt bull) story.
Its also only a Turbo body no. with a sunroof, did any carreras have a sunroof? what about rhd silver ones:roll: |
924 OZY, Carris owned the car. It is the remaining parts of a written-off CGT put into a 924 Turbo body. There's nothing suspicious about the car itself, as far as I can tell (the current owner and his sales technique, well, that might be a different story). But it certainly is not a real CGT and its value, I think, is nowhere near that of a real CGT (and yes, paulsmaroon924, there were right-hook CGT's). But if it's still in the same condition that it was when Carris had it, it's a damned nice CGT replica. What's it worth? Well, it should be worth as least as much as a Series II Turbo, and probably just a smidge more, given the parts are actual CGT parts...
EDIT: And just FYI, 924OZY, here's the original discussion of the car, including a short blurb on its provenance. _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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Nein37
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 513 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:40 am Post subject: |
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I think its worth more than just a smidge over a 931. Depending of course on the number of real CGT parts... its at least worth what they would bring as parts and I imagine they'd fetch some serious money. _________________ 1981 931 CGT replica, OEM CGT intercooler, .8 BAR WG spring, GTS Headlights, Innovative Wide band A/F, A/C delete, 16" Fuchs, Weltmeister 200lb lowering springs, Bilstein HDs front, Koni Sport rears. |
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