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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:24 pm    Post subject: Lost keys Reply with quote

I lost the only keys for my 924. I can pry the door to get in, but still no key to start it.

What's the easiest cheapest and quickest route to being able to start it with a screwdriver or button and turn off the steering lock. I don't care if it involves permanently breaking the ignition lock or steering lock. I just need this car driveable as it is my only transport and I have no money right now.

Getting a locksmith to make a new key or more likely replace the locks is not an option as it'll be more than the car is worth.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Lost keys Reply with quote

Raize wrote:
I lost the only keys for my 924. I can pry the door to get in, but still no key to start it.

What's the easiest cheapest and quickest route to being able to start it with a screwdriver or button and turn off the steering lock. I don't care if it involves permanently breaking the ignition lock or steering lock. I just need this car driveable as it is my only transport and I have no money right now.

Getting a locksmith to make a new key or more likely replace the locks is not an option as it'll be more than the car is worth.


Sounds bad Mate. And my input isn't going to make it better. To remove the steering lock, you have to first turn on the key (to retract it the pin) and then it can be disabled. I fear your only recourse is that locksmith. I hate being the bearer of bad news.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's unfortunate. Plan B then.

I managed to remove one of the locks, so in theory a key could be cut to fit it. However with the lock off the car I doubt any shop will touch it. And mobile call out is too expensive.

I have read some online guides and it doesn't sound particularly hard to "impression" a new key from the lock I have myself.

Could someone please measure the dimensions of a 924 ignition key so I know what size of key blank I need?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've disassembled the fuel filler cap so now I just have the lock barrel inside a white plastic moulding.

Is there any way to see the wafers now without destroying this thing?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just pulls out. Now I can see all the wafers and easily cut a key to fit once I find some blank.

Actually kinda terrifying how easy this was to do. Gonna fit a hidden kill switch on my car once I get the key problem sorted 😬
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locksmiths used to be able to cut a key from a number on the barrel.
Not sure this practice worked on 924 or is still in use.
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Raize  



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still haven't solved this. Its easy to duplicate any key but the ignition without even using a proper blank. But the ignition lock has a different wafer layout.

I've learned to impression locks to try to make a working ignition key however it didn't work.

Does anyone have information on the number / spacing / layout of the tumblers in the ignition lock barrel? I had seven impression marks on the key I tried to make but I think there may be more tumblers than that, especially towards the end of the key the features seem more complex.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Raize,

if you're still looking to solve this, pm me. I can send you a couple of photos that may help ( ignition lock cylinder and tumblers off of my car, taken a few months ago while cleaning ).

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